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Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:53 am to Lsuchs
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What I've asked you 3 times now is did Saban drug test them?
Each player was enrolled in a Bradford service addiction program which involves weekly urinalysis. These were determined by a meeting with Coach Saban. So, yeah, they were drug tested by Coach Saban.
Seems Hootie may have a bigger drug problem than Cam, since he's set up for a 21 day stay at the rehabilitation facility.
Cam Robinson
Hootie Jones
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:55 am to swamp74
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You are the reason I do not post much
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Member since Oct 2011
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61 posts
Post less.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:56 am to Lsuchs
quote:I agree with you. But the stickler here is that the DA review the evidence and obviously found it to be weak and felt like he didn't have enough solid proof to prosecute.
Someone with a registered firearm at their home is a little different than two 20 yr olds with pistols (one stolen) in a park at 3am, with weed on them non the less. Which is illegal btw
The 4 guys in the car made a mistake. We know that the two Bama players have been in a drug rehab program, attended gun safety sessions, and spent about 2 dozen hours riding the nightly beat with the local police for the last month or so....They are being "educated", we'll see if it's enough to get them back on the team or not.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:58 am to Lsuchs
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Someone with a registered firearm at their home is a little different than two 20 yr olds with pistols (one stolen) in a park at 3am, with weed on them none the less. Which is illegal btw
According to the lawyer, it is only illegal if the gun is being actively used. As in, shooting someone.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:58 am to RT1941
That is great but has nothing to do with the Louisiana DA, and by the way I hope they both get their lives straight and I hope they are able to continue their football careers, my entire post has been directed against the DA.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 11:58 am to RT1941
Trust me I'm not saying they deserve any punishment that can't be proven. My point was only I can speculate just like the poster did about the others posters example
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:00 pm to jatebe
Double post
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:00 pm to jatebe
That seems fricked up that a journalist could have that kind of access to private medical info and then post it on Twitter. Am I missing something?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:00 pm to jatebe
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According to the lawyer, it is only illegal if the gun is being actively used. As in, shooting someone
Illegal or controlled substance in conjunction with a firearm is most definitely even more illegal.
Whether actively shooting someone at the time the drugs are found or not hahaha
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:02 pm to cajunbama
I will, I actually have a life. 
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:10 pm to Lsuchs
The lawyer's take on this video LINK
He says that it was not illegal to be in the park that was closed. He says that Hootie brought the gun to the attention of the police officer and it was not illegal to have gun in Louisiana. "There's no law against carrying a gun in La, in open view"
After Jones called attention to the gun, all 4 in the car were handcuffed even though there were no cause to do so.
At the end, he explains that, as far as the felony charge of a gun with drugs, there has to be an action taking place with the gun... like using it to shoot drug dealers, etc.
He says that it was not illegal to be in the park that was closed. He says that Hootie brought the gun to the attention of the police officer and it was not illegal to have gun in Louisiana. "There's no law against carrying a gun in La, in open view"
After Jones called attention to the gun, all 4 in the car were handcuffed even though there were no cause to do so.
At the end, he explains that, as far as the felony charge of a gun with drugs, there has to be an action taking place with the gun... like using it to shoot drug dealers, etc.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:13 pm to jatebe
In college I knew 2 different people that cops found weed in their apt. They also had legally registered firearms.
The combination of the firearms with the drugs made for a much more harsh penalty. They were in trouble for having a registered weapon just bc they had weed also
Maybe they didn't have as good of lawyers, or maybe this lawyer is throwing stuff against the wall idk. I'll look into it though you have me curious now
The "you can only get in trouble for having guns w drugs if you are actively using it" sounds fishy to me.
Whether you have drugs or not you are in trouble for actively using your guns, "like using it to shoot drug dealers"
The combination of the firearms with the drugs made for a much more harsh penalty. They were in trouble for having a registered weapon just bc they had weed also
Maybe they didn't have as good of lawyers, or maybe this lawyer is throwing stuff against the wall idk. I'll look into it though you have me curious now
The "you can only get in trouble for having guns w drugs if you are actively using it" sounds fishy to me.
Whether you have drugs or not you are in trouble for actively using your guns, "like using it to shoot drug dealers"
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:19 pm to Lsuchs
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Here you clearly know two players were smoking bc they were caught by law enforcement with weed. Will Saban test and punish, we will see
No you don't clearly know either was smoking. You don't know which of the 4 people ( funny how only the 2 Bama players were arrested) in the car who actually possessed, purchased or smoked the weed.
Who were the other 2 passengers? Probably paid off Local LSU plants, trying to get the "Bama traitors" in trouble.
Here's a hypothetical for you:
"If you were out with some friends/acquaintances, one of them had a bag of cocaine, in the car with you, I suppose that automatically means you were snorting rails? "
As for what Saban has done and will do, there have already been reports of what the players have done since, drug tested, drug rehab classes, gun responsibilty classes and police ride alongw. So yeah, they're being dealt with in an appropriate manner by the program.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:26 pm to spacewrangler
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No you don't clearly know either was smoking. You don't know which of the 4 people ( funny how only the 2 Bama players were arrested) in the car who actually possessed, purchased or smoked the weed.
And one of the guys that was released has an arrest history. Why was he let go?
Jaquez Tyray Splond
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:26 pm to spacewrangler
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If you were out with some friends/acquaintances, one of them had a bag of cocaine, in the car with you, I suppose that automatically means you were snorting rails? "
Leaving a bar at 2 and getting pulled over, maybe not. Maybe a guy I was with just dabbles
If I'm sitting at a park at 3am w 3 other dudes and we have cocaine in the car you could be safe in assuming I am high.
Legally maybe not, but honestly we all know they smoke. There is no doubt, if tested within 3 days it will show.
And this whole time I am not on the "they should be in jail" crowd. I'm simply saying if they don't even serve a simple suspension for being in a car with weed and stolen firearms at 3am Saban just gives no shits and just wants his LT out there. Especially when you know they failed tests at that clinic if it was in a reasonable amount of time after the arrest.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:29 pm to cajunbama
quote:Not sure if that is considered medical info. More of a report stating the punishments of the Bama players.
That seems fricked up that a journalist could have that kind of access to private medical info and then post it on Twitter. Am I missing something?
Posted on 6/21/16 at 12:39 pm to jatebe
This is the kinda thing that can put a nasty finish to a long otherwise nice career. There is a ton of anger in Monroe today and it isn't from lsu fans mad about the players. It's from non sport fans, artsy types, academic types and minority leaders. This guy pretty much said playing football is why he won't prosecute. This absolutely damages his credibility in every similar case throughout his career and going forward.
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:08 pm to GnashRebel
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You're an idiot. If the police picked up guys in your neighborhood with drugs and stolen weapons I am sure you would just say, "boys will be boys"
Have the been in trouble before? If not, I would advocate for deferred prosecution. If they had a history, I would be more comfortable with a stiffer sentence.
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