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re: McCarron/Lacy vs Murray/Gurley

Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:23 am to
Posted by Iron Lion
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:23 am to
Yes
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:25 am to
Posted by Iron Lion
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:26 am to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:22 am to
I take McCarron/Lacy because they chose to go to Bama and won there.

Murray/Gurley showed poor judgement skills by going to UGA, and not winning there.

Clearly, we ended up with the smarter players.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:25 am to
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Murray/Gurley showed poor judgement skills


Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:32 am to
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Question for the Bama fans. Do you honestly think that Gurley and Murray couldn't have won as many championships as McCarron and Lacy?


Definitely. Gotta remember also, Yeldon had a 1000 yards behind Lacy too, with Cooper on the outside.

Any QB/RB could have won a title with the '12 team.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:49 am to
True. How about the other years?
Posted by KiffinsVisor
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:48 am to
McCarron/Lacy
Gurley is sick though
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:39 am to
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Definitely. Gotta remember also, Yeldon had a 1000 yards behind Lacy too, with Cooper on the outside.

Any QB/RB could have won a title with the '12 team.

Murray had a habit of crapping his pants in big games though.
Kinda like UGA.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:40 am to
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Murray had a habit of crapping his pants in big games though.


one of the dumbest statements that people continue throw around with zero factual basis behind it. Amazing.
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:42 am to
I wouldn't say he crapped his pants, but he did come up short in some big games up until his senior year. But that had a lot more to do with the team as a whole and not Murray.

For what it's worth, Murray was awesome to watch from his freshman year to his senior.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:42 am to
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Murray had a habit of crapping his pants in big games though.


He was also asked to do a lot more than McCarron.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:45 am to
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one of the dumbest statements that people continue throw around with zero factual basis behind it. Amazing.

In Georgia's other big games that season against South Carolina and Florida:

11/31 109 yards 0 touchdowns 1 interception 58.6 rating
12/24 150 yards 1 touchdown 3 interceptions 91.3 rating

Posted by RB10
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:46 am to
This is a good question....

If we aren't taking into account things like Oline or receiving core, I'd go Murray/Gurley. If it's all things considered, I'd go McCarron/Lacy.

You can't really go wrong, to be honest.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:48 am to
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that had a lot more to do with the team as a whole and not Murray.


exactly correct, which is why saying "murray couldn't win big games" is utterly stupid. How many big games did eric zeier, jay cutler, tim couch, etc win? Very few, but that's a product of them being on shite teams, not because they weren't great QBs.

Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:49 am to
I can post his whole career numbers in meaningful games if you'd like me to.

Of course you probably don't realize that not everyone is alabama that has a 10/10 at every position every year. Sometimes, QBs are asked to actually do a shite ton more than just hand the ball off behind an NFL caliber line and throw a couple deep balls every now and then.
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:49 am to
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True. How about the other years?



I would have taken Murray straight up in 2011. A year under his belt, he scrambled well, and the oline was still sick that year. Of course the defense the main reason Bama won it that year, but having a QB with a year under his belt would have been great. McCarron started to catch on right around when Brad Smedley became the big target.

It's a good discussion, though it's still hard to predict because Alabama runs a different system than Georgia, so we don't know if Murray would have been free to do similar stuff. McCarron in 2011 was much different in 2012, when he had a 30-3 TD-INT ratio.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:50 am to
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I can post his whole career numbers in meaningful games if you'd like me to.

Of course you probably don't realize that not everyone is alabama that has a 10/10 at every position every year. Sometimes, QBs are asked to actually do a shite ton more than just hand the ball off behind an NFL caliber line and throw a couple deep balls every now and then.

Is there something false about what I posted?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:51 am to
False? Not necessarily.

Incomplete? Very, very much so.
Posted by CoachKlein
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:51 am to
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texag7


Boy I'm shocked you went the Bama route
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