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re: Makes me sick thinking of NC State kids

Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:24 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:24 am to
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The only kids I feel sorry for are the ones who are vaccinated. Their unvaccinated teammates let them down.


Bingo!
When Jon Rahm the golfer was disqualified before the final round of a tournament while holding a SIX shot lead, I felt badly for his situation, but I didn't feel sorry for him because he DID have a choice. The NC St. kids that were vaccinated, but still couldn't play, deserve the pity and they WERE let down by their teammates.
Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:25 am to
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This is America, we can't let a highly-contagious deadly worldwide pandemic stand in the way of making a profit, amirite?


Profit only? and if someone had a 1 in 5 chance of dying? sure you make a good point.

I don't know about you but not everything I do has anything to do with making some kind of a profit. My life is more varied than that. Also, we're talking at best for a 50 year old man who is out of shape still only having a 1% chance of dying from Covid. That doesn't sound like the Bubonic Plague much less the Spanish Flu and not really what I would call a deadly pandemic. No more deadly really than a regular flu.

Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
4820 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:25 am to
Yep, definitely need to force everyone to get the vaccine or face the consequences!
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98958 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:27 am to
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RaleighTiger
Favorite team: Missouri


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It would be a challenge to find a bigger Wolfpack fan on this board.


Probably not a big challenge.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1901 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:28 am to
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deadly worldwide pandemic


You are an ultra maroon.

Please do the world a favor and don't procreate.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:30 am to
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No more deadly really than a regular flu.


It's actually more deadly than regular flu.

It's not the 6% death rate we saw early on in Italy, but it's clearly more transmissible and deadlier than our common strains of flu. The numbers are clear. If you don't believe the numbers cut them in half and it's still more transmissible and deadlier.

The info about NC State mishandling the medical side of this has made me less sympathetic.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 10:31 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:30 am to
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a highly-contagious deadly worldwide pandemic stand in the way of making a profit, amirite?



Holy Exaggeration


Just trying to point out the hypocrisy. You can't have a highly-contagious deadly worldwide pandemic and then simply ignore it and continue on with a money-making event where an outbreak has been detected.

The NCAA thinking it can appease the window-lickers by booting out one of those teams while ensuring the money flows uninterrupted is equally disgusting.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:33 am to
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You can't have a highly-contagious deadly worldwide pandemic


exactly how deadly is this "pandemic" for 18-22 year olds?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:37 am to
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This is America, we can't let a highly-contagious deadly worldwide pandemic stand in the way of making a profit, amirite?



Profit only? and if someone had a 1 in 5 chance of dying? sure you make a good point.

I don't know about you but not everything I do has anything to do with making some kind of a profit. My life is more varied than that. Also, we're talking at best for a 50 year old man who is out of shape still only having a 1% chance of dying from Covid. That doesn't sound like the Bubonic Plague much less the Spanish Flu and not really what I would call a deadly pandemic. No more deadly really than a regular flu.



You're making my point. Either you have a highly-contagious deadly virus that requires EVERYONE to wear masks and get vaccinated...TWICE.
Or, you have a hoax that doesn't require masks...OR VACCINATION.

If it's the latter, then NC State is allowed to continue to play at full strength (minus any sick players) and the issue of vaccination is moot.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:38 am to
Did you feel the same for OSU when they had to sit many starters for the same?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:41 am to
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You can't have a highly-contagious deadly worldwide pandemic



exactly how deadly is this "pandemic" for 18-22 year olds?
NONE. That's my point. The issue of vaccination should have been moot.

This entire hoax has gone too far. If you have a highly-contagious deadly virus that requires TWO vaccinations and endless mask-wearing, then if an outbreak occurs, you can't just excuse one team and simply carry on with the others, who have used the same facilities all week, as if nothing happened.

It's one or the other. You can't have it both ways.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:41 am to
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Yep, definitely need to force everyone to get the vaccine or face the consequences!
No. They could have opted out of participating in the tournament though. I saying that they DID have a choice but their vaccinated teammates had no choice!
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:43 am to
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exactly how deadly is this "pandemic" for 18-22 year olds?


It's hovering around 1/10 of 1%. The concern with the spread among that age group is two-fold. 1) Younger people have been the drivers of transmission since July of 2020 leading too many other deaths. 2) As with any virus the potential for mutation could make the virus more dangerous. The less transmission the lower the concern.

The kicker to all the info is understanding while 1/10 of 1% is low if you project that percentage on the population group how many deaths would that account for? In the US that's roughly 22 million people. So it's roughly a potential for 22,000 mortalities.

To be clear I don't believe it's going to lead to 22k deaths in that age group but it is dismissive to act as if people aren't dying. We are all apart of this together.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 10:50 am
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36705 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:44 am to
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the rules.


BUT the rules are dumb as shite. IF it was about health and safety, 20,000+ fans would have had to be tested ... I mean why would you test players and not everyone??

NOTHING MAKES ANY SENSE ANYMORE.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:47 am to
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deadly

Hardly
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:47 am to
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IF it was about health and safety, 20,000+ fans would have had to be tested ...


I read this perspective several times lately. The NCAA's responsibility to the athletes/schools is different from a libel perspective than for fans who have paid entry to an event. The moral responsibility might be the same. The NCAA is only looking out for themselves in this and the libel issue for the players/teams/schools is much higher.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30769 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:49 am to
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The only kids I feel sorry for are the ones who are vaccinated. Their unvaccinated teammates let them down.



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RaleighTiger


I say this to you with no respect what so ever.

You're a bitch.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:52 am to
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exactly how deadly is this "pandemic" for 18-22 year olds?
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It's hovering around 1/10 of 1%



correct for the entire country. It's actually 1.7% right now.

I asked about 18-22 year olds. Current statistics suggest this number is less than 0.2%. So what the F are we doing!? The team may have the same likelihood of dyeing on their travels to Omaha.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:55 am to
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correct for the entire country. It's actually 1.7% right now.

I asked about 18-22 year olds. Current statistics suggest this number is less than 0.2%. So what the F are we doing!? The team may have the same likelihood of dyeing on their travels to Omaha.



I provided the data for 18-22. 1/10 of 1%

If the entire country is at 1.7% then that projects to like 3 million dead. That's why they are trying to take precautions.

Steering it back to the NC State scenario...you can't just let them play right now the virus has enough potential negatives you have to address it. IMO it won't always be this way but for now it is what it is and its already way better than it was.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 10:57 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:58 am to
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If the entire country is at 1.7% then that projects to like 3 million dead.


33,620,000 covid-19 cases and 603,966 deaths is a 1.7% for the U.S.

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I provided the data for 18-22. 1/10 of 1%


where are you getting your data from?
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 10:59 am
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