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Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:24 pm to pankReb
Im InSaNE!!! ReeeeeEEEEE!!!!!!!
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:26 pm to pankReb
I can't wait for April when I can make daisy chain crowns in the field for me and all of my friends of the forest.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:28 pm to deeprig9
quote:That doesn't happen, and unfortunately, I know what I'm talking about.
Cop: You are arrested for DUI and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE!!!!! YOU LIED TO ME!!
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:43 pm to coachcrisp
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That doesn't happen
Egggggggzactly.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:47 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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They are allowed to lie to you with impunity.
Where do you guys get this stuff?
It's a fact. They can lie/bluff their asses off to you in an interrogation to get a confession. And the courts give them every right to do it. This isn't news.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:46 pm to Basura Blanco
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This 100% of the time. There is nothing good that comes from talking to the cops without an attorney. NOTHING. And very little good comes from talking to them with an attorney.
Didn't dv you but I will push back slightly. I was in handcuffs on a curb once for being a dumbass. I admitted my guilt, told them they had every right to take me to jail for the night, and I was let go after we all had a laugh at how big of a dumbass I was. The other people I was with who were silent, well they went to jail for the night and had to hire attorneys (dumb drunk college story... nothing cool
) I think in general it is a good idea to remain silent, but in my situation I felt like it would help me out more than playing that game. I've gotten out of a few hairy situations by just respecting their authority and not playing any games.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:19 pm to deeprig9
How can that dude just go home after that. Another POS to join B Miller at Bama.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:24 pm to deeprig9
Sorry bud, I can't go w/you on this. There is a reason why cops say "you have the right to remain silent" when they Mirandize you
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:27 pm to deeprig9
It's only a crime if they find out you were lying, which makes you an idiot in the first place.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:28 pm to deeprig9
quote:You obviously do not remember it very well.
Lying to cops should only be a crime if you are under oath. Am I the only one who still remembers something called the 5th amendment in the bill of rights?
The 5th Amendment gives you the right to decline to speak with them. It does not give you the right to lie to them.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:30 pm to Uga Alum
quote:and "should be."
You never have to incriminate yourself by talking to the police, but lying to them, under certain circumstances, can be obstruction.
How the Hell does the OP think any crime will ever be solved, if every yahoo with a childish sense of humor is allowed to lie to the police and send them down pointless rabbit trails, just for the immature "lulz."
Even worse, imagine all the people who would 'sic the cops on people that they just don't like ... with complete lies about that person.
FFS, some people are so fricking stupid that they need to be reminded to breathe.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:I have always thought that Miranda was a stupid, paternalistic SCOTUS decision.
why your Miranda Rights remind you that you have the ability to keep your mouth shut.
The 5th Amendment CLEARLY gives you the right not to incriminate yourself, but I see NOTHING in the 5th Amendment which requires an LEO to REMIND you of that right. Pure Strict Constructionism. But the liberal Warren Court pulled that nonsense out of its collective arse.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:40 pm to deeprig9
Kirby has lost control of Georgia.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:45 pm to AggieHank86
AggieHank licking a ton of boots in this thread.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:50 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:LEOs are not allowed to lie about certain things (like the nature of your rights), but they decidedly MAY lie to you constitutionally in order to secure a confession, especially if they have some evidence that you committed the offense (for example). (Some states may alter this by statute).
They are allowed to lie to you with impunity.quote:
Where do you guys get this stuff?
In other words, the answer to the question is not binary.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:52 pm to Imber
quote:Lots of jailhouse lawyers in this thread.
They are allowed to lie to you with impunity.quote:It's a fact. They can lie/bluff their asses off to you in an interrogation to get a confession. And the courts give them every right to do it. This isn't news.
Where do you guys get this stuff?
Yes, they can lie about some things. Other things, not so much.
A smart suspect will just ASSUME that the cops are lying about everything. Err on the side of caution.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:55 pm to AggieHank86
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LEOs cannot lie about certain things (like the nature of your rights), but they decidedly MAY lie to you in order to secure a confession, if they have some evidence that you committed the offense (for example).
So cops can lie to a suspect, but a suspect can't lie to a cop.
quote:
In other words, the answer to the question is not binary.
No, it is in fact very binary. It's the definition of binary. You have claimed to be a lawyer on this site, which I doubt, but if true, you should be disbarred.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:56 pm to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Has anyone told you recently that you are an imbecile? Because you are an imbecile.
EarlyCuyler3
I am a Strict Constructionist. There is NOTHING in the 5th Amendment which requires that you be reminded of your legal rights. The Warren Court wanted that requirement to exist, so they created it. The Warren Court did that ... a lot.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:59 pm to deeprig9
quote:I could cite you to the governing authority on each of those points, but you would just refuse to read it. If you DID read it, you would not understand it.
deeprig9
Why?
I hate to repeat myself, but you are an imbecile.
Personally, I do not think that it is good public policy to allow LEOs to lie to suspects, but that is NOT the question presented in this discussion. Unfortunately, there is also nothing in the text of the Constitution (that pesky Strict Constructionism again) which PROHIBITS the state from lying to a criminal suspect in all circumstances. I would explain the reasons for this, but (again) we both know that you would not understand the explanation, because you are an imbecile.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:02 pm
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