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re: Lutz tragedy likely the result of DUI.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:08 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:08 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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It helps that I have been married for 12 years. My wife and I always take turns.
The ex I was with at the time had a good friend that just flat out didn't drink. Ever. So he was our DD most of the time. If he wasn't, then I usually was. But I could see where it'd be really easy to assume someone was your DD and they ended up drinking enough to be impaired.
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:09 pm to lsupride87
i think most people assumed it was a DUI related accident when the original reports came out that the crash happened in the early A.M. hours. there may have even been a report that they were leaving the local downtown area.
pretty shady to publicly report his BAC, IMO.
hopefully this will be a lesson to anybody who still drinks and drives. i know for me, it took losing a friend to his own DUI, losing my best friend's mother to someone else's DUI, and having another friend go to prison for killing somebody else while DUI - all in the same summer - before i just completely stopped with the drunk driving and drunk riding shite.
pretty shady to publicly report his BAC, IMO.
hopefully this will be a lesson to anybody who still drinks and drives. i know for me, it took losing a friend to his own DUI, losing my best friend's mother to someone else's DUI, and having another friend go to prison for killing somebody else while DUI - all in the same summer - before i just completely stopped with the drunk driving and drunk riding shite.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:10 pm to WDE24
damn, just sad and horrible all around.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:13 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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pretty shady to publicly report his BAC, IMO.
Even though it's the truth?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I don't give a shite whether he was drinking or not, it's absolutely tragic because a young person lost their lives. Someone had to bury a son.
I think you need to get with Webster's on the definition of tragic.
he's just trying to be "that guy" to get a rise out of people. don't pay attention to him as that's exactly what he wants
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:15 pm to BluegrassBelle
trag·e·dy
noun \'tra-j?-de\
: a very bad event that causes great sadness and often involves someone's death
: a very sad, unfortunate, or upsetting situation : something that causes strong feelings of sadness or regret
: a play, movie, etc., that is serious and has a sad ending (such as the death of the main character)
noun \'tra-j?-de\
: a very bad event that causes great sadness and often involves someone's death
: a very sad, unfortunate, or upsetting situation : something that causes strong feelings of sadness or regret
: a play, movie, etc., that is serious and has a sad ending (such as the death of the main character)
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:18 pm to Tornado Alley
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Even though it's the truth?
yeah, not everything that is true is fit to print. this one is a close call and I can see that editors had a decision to make and they undoubtedly chose the option that serves their business interests. But if it was my call to make, I wouldn't have printed it. But im not all butthurt that someone else did.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:26 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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yeah, not everything that is true is fit to print. this one is a close call and I can see that editors had a decision to make and they undoubtedly chose the option that serves their business interests. But if it was my call to make, I wouldn't have printed it. But im not all butthurt that someone else did.
The truth needs to be reported.
It's not like his 0.377 BAC was irrelevant.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:28 pm to Tornado Alley
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It's not like his 0.377 BAC was irrelevant.
How is it relevant? If he were the driver, I see it being important but as an occupant don't see the need.
And I mean it's irrelevant to the news story.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:29 pm to AUCatfish
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How is it relevant? If he were the driver, I see it being important but as an occupant don't see the need.
I posted this a page or two back but it would be relevant in any type of future lawsuit filed on his behalf by his estate.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:29 pm to TigerCruise
I think I get why people don't think it's wrong to communicate Lutz's BAC.
Just trying to see it from the point of views of the parents- if he wasn't at fault, and didn't cause the wreck, then why does it have to be a matter of public record if he overdid it that night? I mean I get public record in the sense of the investigation, just would hate to think this is being blasted across headlines when there's no indication he did anything to cause this accident.
I was genuinely just curious how common it is to list the BAC of someone who wasn't primarily linked to a wreck.
Just trying to see it from the point of views of the parents- if he wasn't at fault, and didn't cause the wreck, then why does it have to be a matter of public record if he overdid it that night? I mean I get public record in the sense of the investigation, just would hate to think this is being blasted across headlines when there's no indication he did anything to cause this accident.
I was genuinely just curious how common it is to list the BAC of someone who wasn't primarily linked to a wreck.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:31 pm to lsufball19
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I posted this a page or two back but it would be relevant in any type of future lawsuit filed on his behalf by his estate.
I edited late, but my point is how is it relevant to the news story. I understand what you are saying in regards to a possible wrongful death suit, but don't know that his BAC is newsworthy.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:38 pm to AUCatfish
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I edited late, but my point is how is it relevant to the news story. I understand what you are saying in regards to a possible wrongful death suit, but don't know that his BAC is newsworthy.
it's newsworthy because Lutz is the only person involved that anyone has ever heard of. Makes plenty of sense, to me at least, that once that information was available that it would very likely be reported by the news. It's not as if news reporting agencies have any sort of a moral compass and decide not to publish factual reports if they might be sensitive topics. How common it is to publish it, I honestly can't tell you.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:40 pm to lsufball19
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It's not as if news reporting agencies have any sort of a moral compass and decide not to publish factual reports if they might be sensitive topics.
Yep. More clicks if the BAC is published.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:47 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
RIP Lutz.
Losing someone to alcohol related events is heart breaking and so unnessasary. That could have been anyone of us who has ever drank to the point of passing/blacking out.
Losing someone to alcohol related events is heart breaking and so unnessasary. That could have been anyone of us who has ever drank to the point of passing/blacking out.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:48 pm to lsufball19
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I posted this a page or two back but it would be relevant in any type of future lawsuit filed on his behalf by his estate
and I'm sure that fact would only be admissible if it had been reported in the public. what a dumbass thing to say
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:49 pm to lsufball19
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it's newsworthy because Lutz is the only person involved that anyone has ever heard of.
And the only reason it was printed, imho
I'm not suggesting that newspapers/news outlets shouldn't print facts if they are "damaging" just find it curious they did in this case when I have never seen them do it before.
Either way, it doesn't change the fact that Auburn and really everyone lost a good person in a horrible way.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:50 pm to AUTiger45
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and I'm sure that fact would only be admissible if it had been reported in the public. what a dumbass thing to say
the question was whether the information was relevant not whether it was proper to report publicly. calm down
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:53 pm to AUTiger45
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what a dumbass thing to say
irony
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:54 pm to Swoopin
Why are you Aubs ducking the circumstances of that wreck?
If they had hit someone else head on and killed others too it would have really been tragic. The best thing you guys can do is not to wish the story to go away but use it to help educate students on the dangers of drunk driving.
If they had hit someone else head on and killed others too it would have really been tragic. The best thing you guys can do is not to wish the story to go away but use it to help educate students on the dangers of drunk driving.
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