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re: LSU Stats : Last 3 years of Offense

Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Adam4848
LA
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:55 pm to
You guys are #1 in the nation, why are you getting trolled right now by fellow LSU fans?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105692 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:56 pm to
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why are you getting trolled right now by fellow LSU fans


I'm getting trolled by LSU fans?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73285 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:56 pm to
Don't think so. A better offense would have obviously scored faster than 39 seconds in against Fresno. Or 2:17 in against Colorado State.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:57 pm to
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There is definately something off behind the scenes,but tbh my interest in football is dwindling
Strange phenomenon
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:58 pm to
Guice is trash.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19657 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:59 pm to
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I'm getting trolled by LSU fans?


You're taking the bait and actually trying to compare Bama and LSU's stats

No one and I repeat no one with a brain would be comparing the two right now.

Edit: LSU is no where near Bama's level right now.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:59 pm to
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And no Etling didn't light up the scoreboard last year, but he didn't lose games for LSU either. Like I said, he's average. He threw for 193 ypg last year with 11 TDs and 5 INTs and completed 59.5% of his passes in 10 starts. He was 4th in the SEC last season in QB rating, 8th in completion %, 5th in YPA, and 3rd in fewest INTs thrown. That is average.


You literally just made up a stat to further your own view point. He was 7th in QB rating at 135.5 LINK

10th in passing yards.
10th in touchdowns.
8th in completion percentage

That's not average

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105692 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:00 pm to
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You're taking the bait and actually trying to compare Bama and LSU


Eh, more so comparing changes from coordinator to coordinator at both places to respond to a post.

I enjoy numbers haha
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19657 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Eh, more so comparing changes from coordinator to coordinator at both places to respond to a post.

I enjoy numbers haha



Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:03 pm to
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games are won and lost on the OL. Formationand philosophy don't matter. If you OL is establishing the LOS 2 yards down the field you can run the wishbone if you want.


You played OL in high school, didn't you? lol
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71238 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:03 pm to
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I listed his senior year stats as Etling is in his senior year.

Etling is a senior this year. You compared McElroy's senior year to Etling's junior year.

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Jesus Christ. BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS

McElroy started in 2009 as well. He had a Heisman trophy winner in his backfield in 2009. And you brought up team rushing stats, not me.

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You said our o-line wasn't any good

I said our o-line isn't good this year. It's not. And our pass blocking was not fantastic last year.

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Etling threw for 92 yards vs Bama and 118 vs Auburn. Our passing offense was ranked 105th in the country.


In 2009, McElroy's junior season, Alabama averaged 193 passing yards a game, good enough for 88th in the country. (also ironically enough, Etling averaged 193 yards per game in his junior season). He completed 60.9% of his passes, Etling 59.5%, pretty negligible difference. He threw for 184 yards per game his junior season, fewer than Etling did last year. They each threw for about 1.1 TDs per game.
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Again, because YOU COMPARED ETLING AND MCELROY. I listed his senior year stats as Etling is in his senior year.

Again, you compared McElroy's senior season to Etling's junior season
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Because the only thing holding back our passing offense has been the qb.



The why did Les Miles and Cam Cameron need to be fired? Why not just find a new QB if that's the ONLY reason we've struggled passing the ball?
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71238 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:06 pm to
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10th in passing yards.
10th in touchdowns.

he started 10 games. Why would you compare his total passing yards and touchdowns to QBs who started in 13 or more games? Was it his fault he didn't start against (or play) Wisconsin or that he didn't start against Jacksonville State? or that we had a game cancelled against USA?
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You literally just made up a stat to further your own view point.

What stat did I make up?
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:09 pm to
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What stat did I make up?


This one

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He was 4th in the SEC last season in QB rating



Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71238 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:11 pm to
Excuse me, he's 4th THIS year. He was 7th last year. There are 14 teams in the conference, and he was ranked dead in the middle. Sounds pretty average to me.

But do you want to go back and compare McElroy and Etling's per game averages from their junior seasons? I didn't think so.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted by the_watcher
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Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Excuse me, he's 4th THIS year


Ohhhhhhh so when you said "last year" he was 4th you actually meant this year but all the other stats you listed right after that were actually from last year. How convenient.

So he's 4th this year after 4 games, 3 of which were vs Syracuse, UT Chattanooga (He had 8 total completions in this one), and BYU. We scored 7 vs Miss St. and he was 1-9 for 4 yards on 3rd down. His 4 yard completion was a dump off on 3rd and 15 to Guice. He had 40 total yards at the end of the third quarter.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71238 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Ohhhhhhh so when you said "last year" he was 4th you actually meant this year but all the other stats you listed right after that were actually from last year. How convenient.

no it was an oversight when going through stats on ESPN.com. I amended my answer to say he was 7th last year. I see you don't care to compare per game stats for McElroy's junior season and Etling's junior season. I wonder why.

It's ok to concede points when you were wrong. I did. Now it's your turn. You have consistently compared McElroy's senior season to Etling's junior season. I promise you no one will think less of you if you concede you were mistaken. But the fact is that both of those QBs put up very comparable, per game, numbers their junior seasons. You just don't like hearing that because the only thing you want to do right now is scream about how terrible the entire team is.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:38 pm to
Sure we can. He threw for 2500 yards, 17 touchdowns and 4 ints.

Etling threw 11 touchdowns and 5 ints. LSU also lost a game in which their opponent didn't score a touchdown. Before the last drive of that game started, he had 77 total passing yards. Etling didn't eclipse 100 yards passing vs Bama, we got six total first downs and scored zero points. We averaged 7.6 a game vs the 3 best defenses we played. The passing offense ranked 105th in the country. Did I miss anything?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71238 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:03 pm to
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Sure we can. He threw for 2500 yards, 17 touchdowns and 4 ints.

how does that work out for a per game average and same for Etling? Totals are great and everything, but not when one player had 10 starts and the other 14.

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LSU also lost a game in which their opponent didn't score a touchdown. Before the last drive of that game started, he had 77 total passing yards.

I didn't realize Etling was the only offensive player on the team. And can I go ahead and get rid of any stats accrued for McElroy at the end of game?
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Etling didn't eclipse 100 yards passing vs Bama, we got six total first downs and scored zero points. We averaged 7.6 a game vs the 3 best defenses we played. The passing offense ranked 105th in the country. Did I miss anything?

Alabama's passing offense was 88th in the country in 2009 and averaged fewer passing yards per game than LSU did last year. McElroy had 120 passing yards against Tennessee, 92 against South Carolina (and 2 INTs), 147 against Ole Miss (on 15/34 passing), and 58 against Texas in the national title game. Fortunately for him, he had a much better team around him.

And we only ran for 33 yards in one of those games. Etling actually had a great game against Florida. It's not his fault Guice fumbled at the goal line and then ran the wrong way the last play of the game. And who was responsible for the only TD scored in the Auburn game last year since I guess Etling is 100% responsible for any points scored or lack thereof?

A bad QB is Marcus Randall, who in 2002, completed less than 50% of his passes and had a QB rating of 109.7. A bad QB is Jordan Jefferson who in 2010 had a QB rating of 114.7 and threw more INTs than he did TDs. A bad Qb is Josh Booty, who in his first year as a starter had a QB rating of 90.3, completed less than 50% of his passes, and threw 19 INTs to only 7 TDs.

Etling is average. I don't know why this upsets you so much.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by ReelTiger1
Member since Sep 2017
1111 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:08 pm to
YES MAM, 100% ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, NOW YOU KNOW WHY WE FIRED THE OLD GRASS EATING frickTARD
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6043 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:30 pm to
We got basketball now too
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