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re: LSU Stats : Last 3 years of Offense

Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:23 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:23 am to
frickED
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:26 am to
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Geeze. LSU's passing yards per attempt are better than Alabama's. That's depressing.


Good, use your aggressive feelings, let the hate flow through you.
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:29 am to
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Two much talent (except on OL and QB)
You literally just stated the problem!
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:40 am to
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Etling's really not all that bad.


He really is. Ask any realistic lsu fan (there aren't many of us) or literally any fan from any team in America that isn't LSU.

Add in how bad the entire offense is playing in general and Canada's refusal to play more than 2 receivers at one time for the majority of snaps and our record can get bad quickly. At this rate it's highly likely that for the second straight year, LSU will not score a single offensive point against Alabama.
Posted by Milk
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:41 am to
Do we have a penalties per game stat. I bet at least our numbers are up there.

I dont think the season is going to be be that bad. The SEC is pretty bad this year on the bottom 3/4. We are just gonna fight it out for best of the rest.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:44 am to
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He really is. Ask any realistic lsu fan (there aren't many of us) or literally any fan from any team in America that isn't LSU.

If Etling had any semblance of an offensive line or more than 2 or 3 receivers that were any good right now, he'd look a lot better. He'd never be better than average. But he wouldn't look as sorry as he has either. I don't think he's any worse than a guy like Greg McElroy was.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:47 am to
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Do we have a penalties per game stat. I bet at least our numbers are up there.

we only committed 3 against Syracuse, but prior to Saturday we averaged 10 per game for 91 yards. I believe that was one of the 3 or 4 worst in the country.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:03 pm to
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If Etling had any semblance of an offensive line or more than 2 or 3 receivers that were any good right now, he'd look a lot better.


Then why wasn't he any good last year either? The offensive line was fantastic and 2 receivers went to the NFL. In 2016 LSU averaged 7.6 points per game against the 3 best defenses they faced.

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I don't think he's any worse than a guy like Greg McElroy was.

His senior year McElroy threw for 2,987 yards with 20 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. He completed SEVENTY percent of his passes. Etling is not remotely close to McElroy


This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:11 pm to
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His senior year McElroy threw for 2,987 yards with 20 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. He completed SEVENTY percent of his passes. Etling is not remotely close to McElroy

McElory also played behind the best line in the country, threw to Julio Jones, and had a Heisman trophy winner in the backfield. You think McElroy would put up those type of numbers in the LSU offense? Very few D1 QBs are going to be successful if they don't have talent around them and coaching staffs that put them in situations to be successful.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:19 pm to
LSU rushed for 3,082 yards last season, mainly against 7-8 defenders in the box. Good for 7th in the country. They averaged 6.1 yards a carry and 256 rushing yards per game. What was wrong with that o-line again?

In 2010 Ingram ran for a grand total of 875 yards. Etling has never completed over 60% of his passes in one season in his career. McElroy completed 70% in 2010.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:45 pm to
I don't remember that 2010 OL being considered the best in the country, and Ingram and Wholeo were hurt most of that season. Etling couldn't hold Mac jock strap.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:15 pm to
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I don't remember that 2010 OL being considered the best in the country, and Ingram and Wholeo were hurt most of that season. Etling couldn't hold Mac jock strap.


It's just him trying to say anything possible to justify his absurd comparison since facts and data don't support his position whatsoever.
Posted by January9th2017
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:23 pm to
Why didn't you do a similar thread about Kiffin vs whoever your OC is now?

I've seen three weeks of shite offense and one week of good offense for Bama (and that was vs Vandy )...
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:30 pm to
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I've seen three weeks of shite offense and one week of good offense for Bama


Yea, our offense really struggled against CSU and Fresno.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:31 pm to
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In 2010 Ingram ran for a grand total of 875 yards.

How many did Trent Richardson rush for and the rest of the team? I see you gave me an entire team total for LSU and only one player for Alabama. Why is that?
McElroy started 2 years. Why are you only providing his numbers for one?
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What was wrong with that o-line again?

Which one of LSU's receivers matched up to Julio Jones? How creative were our coaches to spread the ball around? I don't know why you're arguing this as if the only thing holding back our passing offense has been a QB. It takes much more than just a QB to be successful passing the ball.

And no Etling didn't light up the scoreboard last year, but he didn't lose games for LSU either. Like I said, he's average. He threw for 193 ypg last year with 11 TDs and 5 INTs and completed 59.5% of his passes in 10 starts. He was 4th in the SEC last season in QB rating, 8th in completion %, 5th in YPA, and 3rd in fewest INTs thrown. That is average.

But I know the new accepted stance for LSU fans is catastrophe syndrome, so you do you.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:31 pm to
Alabama Yards Per Play
2015 - 5.7 (46th)
2016 - 6.4 (18th)
2017 - 6.8 (17th)

Alabama Points Per Play
2015 - 0.435 (40th)
2016 - 0.540 (13th)
2017 - 0.583 (9th)

Alabama 3rd Down Conversion
2015 - 35.3% (99th)
2016 - 44.6% (25th)
2017 - 43.4% (38th)


Sooooooooo
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:51 pm to
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How many did Trent Richardson rush for and the rest of the team? I see you gave me an entire team total for LSU and only one player for Alabama. Why is that?

Jesus Christ. BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS
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McElory also played behind the best line in the country, threw to Julio Jones, and had a Heisman trophy winner in the backfield.

You said our o-line wasn't any good. I listed how many rushing yards total we had last year, along with rank and yards per carry and yards per game to show you how wrong you were. The o-line was fantastic. Our quarterback wasn't. We finished 3rd in our division despite those rushing stats. Etling threw for 92 yards vs Bama and 118 vs Auburn. Our passing offense was ranked 105th in the country.

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McElroy started 2 years. Why are you only providing his numbers for one?

Again, because YOU COMPARED ETLING AND MCELROY. I listed his senior year stats as Etling is in his senior year. Would you like to compare the other years as well? What about when Etling was at Purdue can we include those terrible numbers too? McElroy threw 37 total td's his junior and senior year. If Etling threw 20 more touchdown's over the rest of this season he still wouldn't have more.
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I don't know why you're arguing this as if the only thing holding back our passing offense has been a QB

Because the only thing holding back our passing offense has been the qb.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:52 pm to
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I've seen three weeks of shite offense and one week of good offense for Bama (and that was vs Vandy )...


No you haven't.

Versus Fresno State - 41 points and 497 yards
Versus Colorado State - 41 points and 487 yards
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105692 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:53 pm to
Did our 1st team offense punt against Fresno or CSU? Pathetic performance. Bums.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:55 pm to
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Something is weird about LSU. Two much talent (except on OL


That's why there is nothing weird about LSU. They have the same skill level of players at skill positions as anybody in the nation but games are won and lost on the OL. Formationand philosophy don't matter. If you OL is establishing the LOS 2 yards down the field you can run the wishbone if you want.
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