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re: LSU returns better team - how could they lose in Nov?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:17 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:17 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I mean - I love the CWS but no 25 year old girl who is engaged is sleeping with an old ugly sneaky low brow college baseball coach. Only college football could bring us that.
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:18 am to Garfield
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Only Arkansas could bring us that.
Get it right
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:20 am to Garfield
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I mean - I love the CWS but no 25 year old girl who is engaged is sleeping with an old ugly sneaky low brow college baseball coach. Only college football could bring us that.
Well that's true. Petey had a lot of 'fans' at USC from what I heard.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:27 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Well that's true. Petey had a lot of 'fans' at USC from what I heard.
You can do that out in Cali.
In the bible belt? Would have been better off smuggling cocaine to the team than cheat on your wife.
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 1:28 am
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:43 am to Garfield
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I think most objective people will agree that LSU returns more talent than Alabama. However, that doesn't guarantee a win in Nov - I am interested in reason(s) from objective folks re: why LSU may lose that game.
Well, that is correct in some ways. Both return the same number of guys, but LSU returns Mingo, Montgomery, Mathieu and Reid. Those are the big name returnees for LSU.
Bama's big name returnees : Lester, Milliner, Mosley (best all around LB in the nation, cough cough), and Nico (best run stuffing LB in the nation, cough fap cough)
Mingo and Montgomery are the two best DL prospects in the country for next year's draft. Mosley and Nico (that guy from ND is overrated, and won't have the "Saban coached him" hype) are the two best LB prospects in the country for next year's draft.
Lester is the best coverage safety, Reid is more of a hard hitter. Both are VERY good at what the other is the best at.
Mathieu is a playmaker. Milliner is better in coverage, and could be a good PR, but probably won't get the chance. Mathieu is by no means bad in coverage, he's just not elite.
Comparing the rest :
Belue vs Simon - Simon will likely be better in coverage, Belue will be the better playmaker. Overall though, Simon's experience wins.
Sunseri vs Loston - I think the Vinnie Badger is going to really shine this season, whereas I expect Loston to have a rather subpar season compared to Brandon Taylor's. Sunseri wins.
Jesse Williams vs Bennie Logan - Williams is a NT, Logan is a DT. It's hard to compare, but Williams (despite not even starting at NT yet) has a lot of draft hype at the position already, so for the sake of the argument, wash or Williams.
Anthony vs Square - It's tough to compare a DT to a DE, but Anthony is the better player.
It's hard to do a lot of comparing with the rest of the guys on defense.
Barrett Jones > Lonergan
Fluker > Hurst
Faulk > Kouandjio
Warmack > Williford
Collins = Steen
Williams > Clement
WRs are harder to compare because neither group is really proven. Most of Bama's WRs are young, and LSU's haven't had a real QB to see what they can do.
McCannon > Mettsiah
Lacy : Main, all around guy
Yeldon : Back up all around guy
Hart : Fastest of the group
Fowler : Powerback
Ware : Main, all around guy
Ford : Back up all around guy
Blue : Fastest of the group
Hilliard : powerback
Lacy > Ware
Ford > Yeldon (Ford is proven, so he wins, but only because he is proven.)
Blue > Hart (Blue is proven, so he wins, but only because he is proven.)
Fowler > Hilliard (STOP! Hilliard is the better RB, but Fowler is the better powerback.)
Saban > Miles (3-3 doesn't mean shite)
Not gonna tally it up, so I'll just say this. If Mett plays good, LSU wins. If he plays even a little worse than "good" Bama wins.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:46 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Saban > Miles (3-3 doesn't mean shite)
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:47 am to Garfield
What a stupid fricking thread. I don't know of anyone that thinks that LSU is returning more talent than us. Maybe equal, but not more. Even if, we proved that we were undoubtedly the better team last year. Do you really think that Mett is going to make them that much better, especially considering that they lost the best cb in the nation? Perhaps, but to base the premise of your thread on that is really stupid. Bama may very well win on Nov. 3rd and it wouldn't surprise anyone.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:47 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Bear played some coaches that he never beat. Do you think any of those coaches were better than him? If Les wins this year, I'll say he is better, and that may very well happen. I would prefer it if we didn't argue and acted like adults about this discussion.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:50 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
And Yeldon will end up being the best back out of the both groups of RBs by the time the season is over.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:51 am to Funky Tide 8
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And Yeldon will end up being the best back out of the both groups of RBs by the time the season is over.
I believe that, but Ford is proven, and LSU fans would go crazy if I gave an unproven RB the edge.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:51 am to Garfield
OP is weak shite...started this thread, and is getting trollfricked by Arky fans.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:52 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Fair enough 
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:52 am to Funky Tide 8
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Fair enough
Indeed.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:52 am to Funky Tide 8
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Funky Tide 8
shite, can I have whatever you're having?
It'd be so damn fun to be that much of a homer and think that I was being non-biased and thinking things from a completely rational standpoint
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 1:54 am
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:52 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Bear played some coaches that he never beat.
That he played on an annual basis?
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Do you think any of those coaches were better than him?
I don't know of any coach better than him.
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If Les wins this year, I'll say he is better,
I wouldn't necessarily..just an edge that may well go back and forth over next 5 - 8 years.
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I would prefer it if we didn't argue and acted like adults about this discussion.
That's always my aim but it's difficult in blogosphere.
Gimme a few seconds and let me put my thoughts together...as concise as I can be.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:56 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Gimme a few seconds and let me put my thoughts together...as concise as I can be.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:00 am to Gladius Veritas
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It'd be so damn fun to be that much of a homer and think that I was being non-biased and thinking things from a completely rational standpoint
I'm not following....what did I post that was really homerish? The Yeldon comment, maybe, but I will end up being right, you will see.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:02 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
AllBamaDoesIsWin
My thoughts regarding CLM/CNS H2H:
Of the 8 times a SEC rep went to BCS CG 7 were ATL winner, this is norm. UA required an ISU to get there so winning the conference was/is/will be the best and normal way. The CNS/CLM H2H may well become a major determinant for this, no? The thought, that I've seen posted quite a few times, of "don't care about Conference Championship, just win 'Natties' is absurd, from a practical viewpoint.
My thoughts regarding CLM/CNS H2H:
Of the 8 times a SEC rep went to BCS CG 7 were ATL winner, this is norm. UA required an ISU to get there so winning the conference was/is/will be the best and normal way. The CNS/CLM H2H may well become a major determinant for this, no? The thought, that I've seen posted quite a few times, of "don't care about Conference Championship, just win 'Natties' is absurd, from a practical viewpoint.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:07 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
As a post comment edit:
This is not to diminish UA's bowl win in anyway, or UA herself. Well earned, no doubt. Put any 2 clubs in the LSU/UA shoes it still holds true...winning ATL is the norm, therefore CLM/CNS performance against each other is key, at least for now.
This is not to diminish UA's bowl win in anyway, or UA herself. Well earned, no doubt. Put any 2 clubs in the LSU/UA shoes it still holds true...winning ATL is the norm, therefore CLM/CNS performance against each other is key, at least for now.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:13 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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The thought, that I've seen posted quite a few times, of "don't care about Conference Championship, just win 'Natties' is absurd, from a practical viewpoint.
We always want to win Conf Championships, but if given the choice between the 2, then the Natty is going to be the choice every single day and twice on saturdays. Yes, we want both, but last year we could only have 1. I am glad that we got the 1 that we did.
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