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re: LSU now under federal investigation

Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18182 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:54 pm to
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Hot take: sexual assault should be a police matter only. The idea that Universities are responsible for investigating a specific type of crime with kangaroo courts at the threat of being withheld federal funding is batshit asinine logic. We don’t ask public universities to conduct their own murder investigations.

It is requiring the federally supported institution to act appropriately to ensure systems are in place to promote a healthy atmosphere for those using its services. Part of that is timely investigations of complaints and holding people accountable for actions. It is still a criminal matter, but the institution holds the responsibility to act as well to investigate facts and determine if a person needs to be seperated or dismissed due to a lack of compliance with University codes of conduct and local/federal laws.

Hot take: Universities don't like to acknowledge violent crime/assaults as it is bad for business. That coupled with youth, hormones, drugs, alcohol and first time freedoms creates a fertile ground for sexual assault followed by victim blaming/shaming, marginalization and potential cover up.

Universities need to be held more accountable on this, and its laughable to think LSU is alone here.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 5:54 pm to
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Just cause Will Wade offered money on tape, that doesn't meant he broke any rules!


Well that didn't happen.

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Sure, there are allegations that LSU covered up rape allegations against at least 9 football players, but that doesn't mean the coaches knew anything about it.


Tennis coaches did, no one has ever accused the football coaches of knowing anything. Not sure why you're so eager to jump to conclusions.

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Keep trying to find ways to justify the behavior of your coaches, as apparently you care about winning more than you care about punishing rapists.


What behavior are you referring to?
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:00 pm to
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Well that didn't happen.


Good God, stop with this delusional argument, man. He did.

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no one has ever accused the football coaches of knowing anything.


They actually have - just not in a way that compelled the admin to act.



Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:03 pm to
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Good God, stop with this delusional argument, man. He did.


Wrong

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They actually have - just not in a way that compelled the admin to act.



Wrong

Y'all are two very ill informed people.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Wrong


Post the transcript.

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Wrong


Sources have said they think it’s like Ed O knew about Guice. It doesn’t have to be a judge judy-esque “I’m accusing you!” to be an accusation.

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Y'all are two very ill informed people.

Says the guy that was claiming this would all go away in a few weeks when it started a few months ago. You are the master of completely lacking in self awareness my man.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93673 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:10 pm to
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Good God, stop with this delusional argument, man. He did.

No he did not. He said that he made an offer previously. He never offered anyone any amount of money on any of the recorded conversations.

In fact, he never actually offered anyone anything at all on the recorded conversations.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 6:13 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:11 pm to
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Post the transcript.


Why? Anyone who isn't completely ignorant knows that Will Wade never offered a recruit money over the phone as Low IQ Hugh stated.

If you don't know that by now then you just don't care about facts.

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Sources have said they think it’s like Ed O knew about Guice. It doesn’t have to be a judge judy-esque “I’m accusing you!” to be an accusation.



One source said he "thought" O knew. He didn't say O did, he just said he "thought" O did.

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Says the guy that was claiming this would all go away in a few weeks when it started a few months ago. You are the master of completely lacking in self awareness my man.


Now you're just lying, I never said anything of the sort.

Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:13 pm to


No he did not. He said that he made an offer previously. He never offered anyone any amount of money on any of the recorded conversations.


Ah, you are technically correct. He got caught talking about making offers.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but SidewalkMoron here has made the braindead argument that “it’s not clear he was talking about money” with regard the “rookie minimum” conversation. That’s what I take issue with.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:15 pm to
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One source said he "thought" O knew.


That’s an accusation. It’s not a particularly strong one, but it is an accusation.

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Now you're just lying, I never said anything of the sort.

We’ve played this game before when you had a thread deleted by the mods and denied it after people forgot about it.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17379 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:15 pm to
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Ah, you are technically correct. He got caught talking about making offers.


This is the kind of stupid games they'd rather play than actually punishing people who covered up rape. I wish I could say it shocked me.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93673 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:18 pm to
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This is the kind of stupid games they'd rather play

The facts are games now?

If he had offered money to someone on the tapes this would have been over with a long time ago.
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rather play than actually punishing people who covered up rape

What does this have to do with Will Wade taking about stong arse offers?
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:18 pm to
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This is the kind of stupid games they'd rather play than actually punishing people who covered up rape. I wish I could say it shocked me.


To be clear Wade and the assault allegations are two different things.

Wade is just classic dumbass LSU.

The assault allegations are awful and need to be blown up so we can actually get some change where universities actually have some semblance of accountability.

I’m sure my own school’s shitty AD has some skeletons too, and I want that to stop.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:18 pm to
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That’s an accusation. It’s not a particularly strong one, but it is an accusation.


No it isn't.

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We’ve played this game before when you had a thread deleted by the mods and denied it after people forgot about it.


False.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:20 pm to
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I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but SidewalkMoron here has made the braindead argument that “it’s not clear he was talking about money” with regard the “rookie minimum” conversation. That’s what I take issue with.







No I haven't, you have me confused with someone else. I've never even read the transcript so I have no clue what was even said.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:22 pm to
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No it isn't.


So you don’t understand basic words now? That’s a new twist on this shitty alter.

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False


Look, I don’t really care about proving you wrong here. Deep down you know you’re lying on a dumb sports board about having made an over-the-line joke about a real sexual assault case.

I own my shitty predictions about MSU beating Kentucky. I don’t go back and delete them so I can just outright deny them to protect my e-cred. Lighten up.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:24 pm to
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I've never even read the transcript


I actually laughed my arse off at this one. Texas A&M poster-tier of new low for you.

Are you sure you’re a Willy alter or are you the product of some texag7 experiment?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:25 pm to
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So you don’t understand basic words now? That’s a new twist on this shitty alter.



Yes, so I know that wasn't an accusation by definition.

Not an alter so not sure why you're stuck on that.

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Look, I don’t really care about proving you wrong here. Deep down you know you’re lying on a dumb sports board about having made an over-the-line joke about a real sexual assault case


I've never made a joke about it, again, you have me confused with someone else and its very odd that you're too stubborn to admit it.

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I own my shitty predictions about MSU beating Kentucky. I don’t go back and delete them so I can just outright deny them to protect my e-cred. Lighten up.


I wasn't aware that we could delete anything on here.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:26 pm to
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I actually laughed my arse off at this one. Texas A&M poster-tier of new low for you.

Are you sure you’re a Willy alter or are you the product of some texag7 experiment?

Never read the transcript, not sure what any of that has to do with me never reading the transcript.

I don't even follow the basketball team.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:27 pm to
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I wasn't aware that we could delete anything on here.


I love the semantics you play. Yes, you can’t technically delete things on here.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52486 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:29 pm to
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I love the semantics you play. Yes, you can’t technically delete things on here.






Semantics? You make vague accusations and get mad when you aren't right. Be more specific.

What was the supposed joke you're referring to?
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