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re: LSU now under federal investigation

Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:33 am to
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False.


Do you care to elaborate? You guys are down 8 scholarships over the next two years, and missed a bowl game for the 2020-2021 academic year. Am I missing something?
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:33 am to
OOOOFFFFF NOT A Good Look
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:33 am to
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the obvious point is that an ignorant and uneducated sidewalk fan shouldn't be correcting other posters


Well stop trying to correct me then
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:34 am to
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Do you care to elaborate? You guys are down 8 scholarships over the next two years, and missed a bowl game for the 2020-2021 academic year. Am I missing something?


Cheating and unintentionally committing violations are two different things.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:37 am to
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Cheating and unintentionally committing violations are two different things.


Posted by Alyosha
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:39 am to
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unintentionally committing violations


Lulz
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:39 am to
Which of the violations was intentionally committed by LSU football in order to gain a competitive advantage?

Posted by lsu711
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:43 am to
What was the situation with Albert Means and Alabama? Is it the same deal with Vadal Alexander - booster paying an advisor to presumably influence the recruit?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:44 am to
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Which of the violations was intentionally committed by LSU football in order to gain a competitive advantage?


I’d say paying a player’s family a substantial amount of cash, a former player handing out cash after wins, and a head coach having illegal contact with a recruit could all fall under that umbrella.

But I don’t semantic very well.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:45 am to
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What was the situation with Albert Means and Alabama?


It wasn’t cheating, okay? We just had a booster pay a large sum of money to the recruit’s head coach. Alabama didn’t do it on purpose, and it was unrelated to the athlete playing for Alabama - I promise.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 10:46 am
Posted by lsu711
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:46 am to
I thought it was something like that. I guess the difference with Vadal Alexander is he was already on the team at LSU when his Dad took a payment.

But Alabama is still around and thriving. So I think we’ll be OK.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:49 am to
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I’d say paying a player’s family a substantial amount of cash, a former player handing out cash after wins, 


Neither of these were committed by LSU football and neither gave LSU football a competitive advantage so your "point" that LSU football was cheating holds no water.

However, they are both still violations by the letter of the law hence the self imposed sanctions.

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 head coach having illegal contact with a recruit could all fall under that umbrella.


That has nothing to do with the bowl ban.
Posted by ColoradoAg
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:49 am to
You haven't even seen the NCAA sanctions quite yet. But they are coming, and reports like this will make it harder for the NCAA not to act. How much is football, basketball, tennis, etc. is to be determined.

But the entire AD is rotten to the core
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:51 am to
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reports like this will make it harder for the NCAA not to act


Since when did the NCAA start enforcing Title IX?
Posted by lsu711
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:54 am to
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NCAA sanctions

We’ve all been there, haven’t we?

The difference is LSU will win another national championship sooner than later.
Posted by BLG
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:59 am to
hell of a lot of attempt in this thread to spin away from a federal investigation by the U.S. Department of Education and a separate investigation by the NCAA.

Lack of Institutional Control incoming.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:02 am to
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hell of a lot of attempt in this thread to spin away from a federal investigation by the U.S. Department of Education and a separate investigation by the NCAA.


I've simply posted facts. Why is that bothering you?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:09 am to
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Neither of these were committed by LSU football and neither gave LSU football a competitive advantage so your "point" that LSU football was cheating holds no water.

However, they are both still violations by the letter of the law hence the self imposed sanctions.


Okay, you win.

LSU football didn’t do anything wrong. Any sanctions they’re self imposing or will receive will not be as a result of anything nefarious.

quote:

However, they are both still violations by the letter of the law hence the self imposed sanctions.


Are you sure you can’t find a letter of that law to disagree with while we’re here?

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That has nothing to do with the bowl ban.


I didn’t say it did. It was a part of their self imposed sanctions for cheating.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:11 am to
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I didn’t say it did. It was a part of their self imposed sanctions for cheating.


Tuscaloosa doesn't know what the word "cheating" means.

Oof!
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:15 am to
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Tuscaloosa doesn't know what the word "cheating" means.


Are you sure?
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