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re: LSU now suing in federal court

Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:18 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:18 am to
I can't wait to see this place when Chavis wins the case because the contract was shite and that shite wasn't correctly followed by the employer.

Then it will be "unhonorable Aggies and Chavis hiding behind a broken legal system instead of doing what's right."
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:19 am to
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This is why LSU filed for discovery.


LSU better hope that turns up more than what we already have or the case is shot
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92916 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:20 am to
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cardboardboxer



You sure are stupid man. Congrats
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27017 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:23 am to
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Employment is employment. Judges normally don't like contracts that are poorly written in the benefit of the employer.


As long as it's a valid contract (both parties entered into it willingly, not in violation of law, etc.), I'd venture to guess Judges don't care. Louisiana is a very employer-friendly state when it comes disputes.
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The problem for LSU is that is doesn't matter what is right and what is wrong. What matters is what is in the contract and what LSU can prove.


Exact same for Chavis/A&M.

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This could be a lot of egg on the face of the LSU AD if that contract is as poorly written as has been implied on the A&M side. At worst we settle, so we really can't "lose" this case like many of y'all hope.


As it could for A&M/Chavis if the contract was well written. And yes, you could lose.

Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14734 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:34 am to
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First Speedy, now Chavis. Texas A&M just reaches across the border of Lousianna and takes what it wants.


just like Jamal Adams right?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:35 am to
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Exact same for Chavis/A&M.


Chavis doesn't have to prove anything, except maybe that the contract was altered.

Chavis's official line was he quit in February, LSU had the burden of proof that wasn't the case.

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And yes, you could lose.


Technically yes. The likelihood of us losing is not anywhere near what is justified by the confidence level of corndogs on here.

I get it though, LSU fans are fans. You will assume your AD is in the right until it is obvious to all he is doing a Don Quixote impersonation, and then when the case falls apart y'all will complain it is the windmill's fault.

Meanwhile us A&M fans should probably get even more arrogant about the results, because worst case if discovery finds something big we settle. It will be hard for us to completely lose.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:39 am to
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Anyone with half a brain looks at this and sees an eventual settlement.The idea that Chavis will outright lose in court, or the NCAA will get involved, is insane.


This is the only valid statement in this thread.

I don't give a rat's arse about the legal aspect. What I care about are the player quotes on page 5
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:43 am to
You remind me of a guy I work with. We all make fun of him behind his back. We can google something and show him that he's wrong, and he will twist the logic and use all kind of ridiculous personal experiences that have zero similarities to the subject matter just to "prove" that he's right and everybody else is wrong.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14142 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:47 am to
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What I care about are the player quotes on page 5

This
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:50 am to
To ALL aggie idiots

If everything is ok and Chavis did nothing wrong, why is the fat frick trying to claim LSU alters the contract after he signed it?

I'll tell you why, it's because he is fricked.

Yes...you can take vacation
Yes...you can change jobs while on vacation

But if you have a contract that states you have to pay "X" if you leave before a certain date and take a job somewhere else, then there is no debate......pay up bitchez

Now, Chief and aTm's issue really compound if he is found to have been recruiting, which we all agree, is not in question. And that brings the NCAA into this along with the SEC for that violation. They will simply wait for the sworn testimony of all and use it against aTm in the possible case against them.

Chief and aTm DO NOT want this to go to court, IMO. As far as LSU, there is NOTHING to lose. Enforceable contract is enforceable, and the proof is not refuted.

So it will cost tons more than 400k to chavis/aTm in the long run.

To those saying "just have aTm pay it". If they do, it saddles Chief with the tax burden because that would have to be considered income to have a personal debt paid off by the institution.

nd the kicker is, there was ZERO benefits from the move. It had ZERO impact on recruiting. Unless of course you count pulling a kid away from ULL an "impact"

Just another ignorant day at the office for the dumb arse institution that was even one of the top 2 schools in the state.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19363 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:53 am to
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To ALL aggie idiots

If everything is ok and Chavis did nothing wrong, why is the fat frick trying to claim LSU alters the contract after he signed it?

I'll tell you why, it's because he is fricked.

Yes...you can take vacation
Yes...you can change jobs while on vacation

But if you have a contract that states you have to pay "X" if you leave before a certain date and take a job somewhere else, then there is no debate......pay up bitchez

Now, Chief and aTm's issue really compound if he is found to have been recruiting, which we all agree, is not in question. And that brings the NCAA into this along with the SEC for that violation. They will simply wait for the sworn testimony of all and use it against aTm in the possible case against them.

Chief and aTm DO NOT want this to go to court, IMO. As far as LSU, there is NOTHING to lose. Enforceable contract is enforceable, and the proof is not refuted.

So it will cost tons more than 400k to chavis/aTm in the long run.

To those saying "just have aTm pay it". If they do, it saddles Chief with the tax burden because that would have to be considered income to have a personal debt paid off by the institution.

nd the kicker is, there was ZERO benefits from the move. It had ZERO impact on recruiting. Unless of course you count pulling a kid away from ULL an "impact"

Just another ignorant day at the office for the dumb arse institution that was even one of the top 2 schools in the state.


I love this place.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18821 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:54 am to
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Aggie Dynasty


Gets me every time!!
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 8:54 am
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62034 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:00 am to
I've lost track of what melt day this is for LSU, but some of your fans are embarrassing the shite out of y'all
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18821 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:05 am to
Do you think LSU fans really give a flying frick what an Aggy thinks about them via the internet? Besides another Aggy fan, the entire country laughs at you.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127492 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:06 am to
I fail to see this "melt" you speak of.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18821 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:08 am to
Old Sarge is one of the few Ags on here that you can literally tell through his "jokes" that he's the prototypical Aggy that respectable Ags try to hide.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:12 am to
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If everything is ok and Chavis did nothing wrong, why is the fat frick trying to claim LSU alters the contract after he signed it?



Do you not know how the legal system works? You throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.

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But if you have a contract that states you have to pay "X" if you leave before a certain date and take a job somewhere else, then there is no debate......pay up bitchez



Agreed, it is pretty cut and dry. Chavis's contract ran through January, and he quit the beginning of February when his vacation time ran out.

By the contract Chavis is in the clear. Hence why he did not pay.

It is LSU that has to prove he quit before February, which is harder than just showing the judge some recruiting photos. He could have just been touring his future employer's work environment as part of the interview, which happened to overlap some recruiting already in place.

Unless discovery finds some email dated early January where Chavis says "now that I quit LSU, here is what I will do this month..." then LSU has a very large burden to prove he owes that money.

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And that brings the NCAA into this along with the SEC for that violation.


If the NCAA was investigating this they would tell us. Heck if they didn't take down Miami and North Carolina this won't even show up on their radar. Only LSU fans are so convinced they will get involved.

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As far as LSU, there is NOTHING to lose.


LSU has a lot to lose. First of all there is that buyout money, but that is only the start. Then there is Chavis's backpay for vacations, and his legal fees. Plus the fact that if it comes out the contract was shitty/altered then the LSU AD looks like a chump. LSU is risking a lot for not a lot of money.

It is A&M that has little to lose. At the worst, the absolute worst, we pay the buyout in a settlement. But for some legal fees and some time we get to dig the knife in a competitor's AD, and maybe expose him as incompetent. Very low risk for a lot of potential reward for Aggy.

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there was ZERO benefits from the move.


Not true, there is a five star in my avatar that doesn't come to A&M without talking to Chavis. Mack alone is worth the buyout if we have to settle.

Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3073 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:14 am to
This is ridiculous, I understand it's a troll, but I think LSU fans are getting comfortable with our new staff. We did lose one of the better defensive minds in college football, but with the new coaches, we will be pulling in more top defensive talent than ever before. LSU will be perfectly fine.

Aggy will have to prove they are capable of having a good defense, along side the HUNH offense. I am not a believer that the two can go hand in hand. It will be interesting to see if they can co-exist. I think it will take Chavis at least 3-4 years to bring in the type of talent to have the kind of depth he needs to get anywhere close to the kind of defense he had at LSU. I tend to believe that the fast paced offenses stifle the defense. Time will tell.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:19 am to
Old Sarge is a very respectable Aggie.

This does kinda show behind the curtain a little, how disappointed you are that Aggies on here don't often give you the low-hanging Texags fruit that lurking on Shaggybevo taught you to combat. As a group on here we defend our positions pretty well and we march in lockstep. The Rant's contingent of Aggies is completely different than what you paint us to be, which means eventually you will have to come up with your own material rather than aping your betters.

I hate it for you, as thinking outside the box is obviously not your strong suit.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:25 am to
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as thinking outside the box is obviously not your strong suit.


Wow, did you really tell somebody else that?
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