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re: LSU now suing in federal court

Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:14 am to
Begged Chavis to stay/takes what he wants

Doesn't compute
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:14 am to
A&M only got 1 piece of the puzzle and somehow that translates into a total revamp on defense? Corey Raymond was the Glue. Getting rid of Brick Haley was worth letting Chavis go. I will guarantee LSU will be much improved on DL this year which will make up losing Chavis and we did it going cheaper. I call that just good business
This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 9:15 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:18 am to
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You know damn well the budget cuts don't reach the AD.


The political realities of the budget cuts do, or y'all wouldn't be delaying the building of facilities because of optics.

I bet paying Chavis the $3.4+ million contract he earned wouldn't have flown in that state either. With all those normal educators losing their jobs the side of LSU with a guaranteed income has to lay low to avoid looking like a piggy bank to politicians forced with making the cuts.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:21 am to
I hope y'all do well next year, I would hate for this to end Les's career. It is obvious to me y'all got lucky with Saban and Les, and I expect that luck to run out on the next hire.

A&M needs a good LSU, which means we need Les to stick around. For his sake I hope Steele works out.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:22 am to
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He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:23 am to
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I bet paying Chavis the $3.4+ million contract he earned wouldn't have flown in that state either. With all those normal educators losing their jobs the side of LSU with a guaranteed income has to lay low to avoid looking like a piggy bank to politicians forced with making the cuts.


In Louisiana, football >>>>>> higher education. I promise you more people can name every position coach and coordinator on staff than can name one member of the faculty.
This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 9:25 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:29 am to
Sure, but Bobby is cutting to bone. Eventually those LSU AD profits will look like part of a political solution if Joe spends money like a drunken Aggie. I know how Louisiana politicians work, everything is on the chopping block before entitlements are.

Y'all delayed building facilities for a reason, and it wasn't lack of money. Heck the project could create some jobs, so it wasn't local economics.

It was optics, and Joe not wanting to put a polticial target on his back. Seeing as how Joe is sitting on a profit that is the only reasonable explanation for the weird deal Chavis was offered. It was either optics or incompetence.
This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 9:30 am
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:32 am to
It's worth keeping an eye on, but no politician who wants to be reelected will touch the athletic department.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:35 am to
You say that like LSU has universal support in the state. I know some NOLA power brokers that would love to tear down the LSU AD some.
This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:38 am to
This looks like sour grapes on LSU's part and should be something any coach looking at LSU as a destination to consider before signing a contract.
Posted by OriginalTexan
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:45 am to
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spends money like a drunken Aggie



Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
4179 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:50 am to
Serious question to cardboardboxer and oldsarge.

Would you two be willing to go for a psychological evaluation if I would promise to pay for it?
The one condition is that you would be willing to give access to your SEC Rant account and post history.

You two are so totally obsessed with LSU it is weird and creepy.

I would love to hear what a certified health professional would think about two grown men who spend so much time on a message board obsessing over LSU and bloviating about TAMU sports as if it were relevant.


This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by OriginalTexan
Member since Mar 2015
130 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:52 am to
As if an LSU fan could pay for anything. Yall can't even keep your school open.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:56 am to
If you really want to send an Aggie to the shrink I vote it's JFF. Chavis really did a number on him.


Oops, I forget it wasn't Chavis, it never was Chavis. It was this Reymond or whoever guy that no one mentioned once back in 2012 when JFF actually played.
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
23055 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:57 am to
What you fail to recognize even still, is that the state budget cuts will not have the impact on our AD you believe it will. It may effect some renovations and new construction but our staff salaries will not be changed in any way due to the fact that they are paid by TAF and donations
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:58 am to
Raymond's secondary was the reason nobody was open
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 10:02 am to
At least attempt to hide your ignorance.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62682 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 10:03 am to
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I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind except that you happen to be insane.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85633 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 10:18 am to
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Yall can't even keep your school open.


When I was a kid my Big Brother couldn't afford to buy a Duncan yo-yo. That still didn't stop him from beating the shite out of me.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 4/4/15 at 10:20 am to
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It may effect some renovations and new construction but our staff salaries will not be changed in any way due to the fact that they are paid by TAF and donations


You are completely missing my point.

I am not saying that the cuts will directly cut the budget of the AD. In fact from my understanding the money for the facilities is all there, but delayed because of optics. The fact that Joe has to play with optics is a dangerous thing, because it means the shitty political situation in Louisiana MAY lead to cuts in the AD.

Optics is a big deal in college football. Most of these schools are public entities, and state lawmakers have had a history of putting their hand in the AD cookie jar (no matter where the money came from) when it seemed like the AD was making out like a bandit. That is why Tenn's AD bottomed out- in the good times a framework was put in place to force the AD to pay money to the academic side. When times were bad they want broke because of that expectation. Even rich schools have to deal with this optics issue- Texas has to give like a third of the LHN money to the academic side because that total was seen as too much of a windfall for the AD alone when the state was cutting the education budget.

Optics are huge, optics are why a Wincy doesn't just pay Bert instead of letting him go to Arky. I read their message boards then and some fans wondered if their state would ever tolerate a head coach getting paid a rate not near Sumlin's or Les's despite the fact they can easily afford that thanks to the B1G Network. Optics keeps a glass ceiling on that program.

When shite hits the fan like it is in Louisiana then anything tied to the government sitting on a nest egg might be seen as a source of revenue. Some of yall seem confident that LSU's AD is seen as such a public benefit that no politician would dare touch it but I remember a time when those shitty Louisiana politicians almost ran the Saints out of the state. I see people bitch on this very forum that poor underpaid Les makes too much money, so obviously there isn't this unified local sympathy that paying Texanish amounts for coaches would fly in that environment. College and Pro football optics in Louisiana matter for as long as it remains a purple state.

tl:dr the shitty politicians might come after Joe's money as a way to avoid really bad cuts in the LSU system if Joe spends crazy amounts on any single person or project. Seeing how extravagant spending on people/projects is the new trend in college football that doesn't bode well for LSU in the medium term and might be why Joe is trying to fight for every dollar in the public sphere that he can go after. This is all optics-driven.

This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 10:28 am
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