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re: LSU now suing in federal court

Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:23 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:23 am to
#tGulfWar
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72077 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:24 am to
I almost posted quotes from a couple years ago from some LSU fans expressing frustration with Chavis' defensive philosophy. Figured that might show that folks didn't just jump on the bandwagon just because Chavis bolted.

But then I remembered a couple things. 1 being I don't care enough. 2 being I'd be dealing with a particular group of ags on here that have to coach their own on how to troll the SECr. Not to mention a few of them really take shite personal. Not worth it. Let em keep living in their fantasy world. It's all they have on LSU besides bringing up shite from the 90s

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:26 am to
If your insurance company is letting you fight it without them paying for your defense, you need to find a new carrier
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:26 am to
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dealing with a particular group of ags on here that have to coach their own on how to troll the SECr. Not to mention a few of them really take shite personal.


This is hilarious coming from lsufan

Our respective fanbases are eerily similar, tbh.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72077 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:28 am to
There's maybe 20 of you guys that post regularly. There's literally as many LSU fans on this board as all other SEC schools combined. Of course we have our village idiots. Every fan base does.

And no one on the TR tries to rally the troops to head over to the SECr like y'all and Arkansas fans.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:28 am to
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If your insurance company is letting you fight it without them paying for your defense, you need to find a new carrier


It's a very loose example. Seeing as how aTm is named as a Defendant in the matter, no matter how willingly, I have no idea who is responsible for Chavis's legal fees.
Posted by drewb808
The top notch
Member since Feb 2007
5687 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:28 am to
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Our respective fanbases are eerily similar, tbh.


This is probably one of the greatest insults to the LSU fanbase, tbh
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:29 am to
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I almost posted quotes from a couple years ago from some LSU fans expressing frustration with Chavis' defensive philosophy. Figured that might show that folks didn't just jump on the bandwagon just because Chavis bolted.


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LSU Defenses against Power 5 Opponents
Yards/Play (Rank) Points/Play (Rank) 3rd % (Rank)
2011..... 4.0 (2)........... .16 (2)......... 36.8 (36)
2012..... 4.3 (7)........... .24 (10)....... 31.5 (9)
2013..... 5.1 (34)......... .32 (34)....... 39.5 (63)
2014..... 4.9 (26)......... .28 (17)....... 37.16 (33)


Diminishing Returns
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19142 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:30 am to
Living in Texas minus four years in BR, you get to know them quite well. There are many, many great Ags. I have them in my family actually/unfortunately sometimes. Knowing how they felt/feel about Texas and how Texas felt about them compared to OU is strikingly similar to the relationship now and ours with Bama. You win because you were supposed to win. You lose, dear Lord close your eyes & ears til kickoff the next year.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72077 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:30 am to
They've been little bro in their state for a long time. LSU has run Louisiana for a far back as my memory will go. I think each fan base expects much different from it's program due to accomplishments. There is no way I could say our fan bases are similar. I'd say aTm and Arkansas are very similar.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 11:33 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:31 am to
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#tGulfWar


Meh. It's not really much of a war. More of an LSU incursion at this point.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72077 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:32 am to
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You win because you were supposed to win. You lose, dear Lord close your eyes & ears til kickoff the next year.


Spot on

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:33 am to
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It's not really much of a war.


Neither was the actual Gulf War...
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:33 am to
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You win because you were supposed to win. You lose, dear Lord close your eyes & ears til kickoff the next year.


-Mississippi
-Texas A&M
-Arkansas

At least Mississippi State knows where their place is.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:34 am to
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no one on the TR tries to rally the troops to head over to the SECr like y'all and Arkansas fans.


We only do that when we know y'all are lurking our board.

And we are successful, apparently.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:35 am to
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This is probably one of the greatest insults to the LSU fanbase, tbh


I'm not that ecstatic about it, either
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51554 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:37 am to
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Neither was the actual Gulf War...


I didn't think about it like that. I'll allow it.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72077 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:37 am to
I honestly don't lurk any boards. There isn't enough activity. I only know y'all do that from reading it on here.
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And we are successful, apparently.


Sure? Bask in it bro. I remember being a teenager.

Eta forgot you're a mod. You should do the board a favor and stop some of your own from rallying the troops. It'd do wonders for this board.

Etaa y'all only do that when you know LSU fans are lurking? Do you realize how much the TR gets lurked?
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27566 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:00 pm to
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Chavis's contract ran through January, and he quit the beginning of February when his vacation time ran out.


Actually, it ran through December of 2015 and there was a stipulation that if he quit before a certain date (which is still up for confirmation), he owes LSU 400k and that if LSU terminated him before this date, he would be owed 400k by LSU.

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By the contract Chavis is in the clear. Hence why he did not pay.


Or he's not. If he was so blatantly in the clear, why would he have rushed to file before LSU to establish a possibly more favorable venue. Furthermore, why would LSU even file a counterclaim if he was so undeniably in the right?

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It is LSU that has to prove he quit before February, which is harder than just showing the judge some recruiting photos. He could have just been touring his future employer's work environment as part of the interview, which happened to overlap some recruiting already in place.


LOL, surely you don't think Aggy's legal counsel will be able to explain away those photos that easily? Those photos, in combination with phone records LSU has filed for, will undoubtedly be more A&M's burden to explain than LSU's to prove.

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Unless discovery finds some email dated early January where Chavis says "now that I quit LSU, here is what I will do this month..." then LSU has a very large burden to prove he owes that money.


Chavis tendered his resignation before the 5th of January, after he'd already been at A&M since I believe the 2nd. He was required to give LSU 30 days notice and expected to fulfill that 30 day obligation. How is Chavis going to prove he was fulfilling that obligation? I'm sure if he is going to contend that was his vacation, he would have no problem presenting documentation that he got LSU's approval for said vacation before he submitted his resignation, correct? I'm sure LSU would have approved all that vacation just before signing day

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If the NCAA was investigating this they would tell us. Heck if they didn't take down Miami and North Carolina this won't even show up on their radar. Only LSU fans are so convinced they will get involved.


How long does the NCAA typically take to get involved? If they are going to get involved (which I'm not saying they will, just throwing around some hypotheticals), what makes you so sure it would have been by now? Could it be possible they are waiting for the legal issues to be worked out first?
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LSU has a lot to lose. First of all there is that buyout money, but that is only the start. Then there is Chavis's backpay for vacations, and his legal fees. Plus the fact that if it comes out the contract was shitty/altered then the LSU AD looks like a chump. LSU is risking a lot for not a lot of money.

It is A&M that has little to lose. At the worst, the absolute worst, we pay the buyout in a settlement. But for some legal fees and some time we get to dig the knife in a competitor's AD, and maybe expose him as incompetent. Very low risk for a lot of potential reward for Aggy.


I would say both have a lot to lose at this point. LSU has counter-sued for more (as has Chavis), so I'd be willing to bet once breach is either established (or not) both sides will opt for a settlement.

It's disingenuous to say LSU has so much to lose, while ignoring A&M's risk...both legal and NCAA. You bring up LSU's reputation at stake, what about A&M's should a judgment come against Chavis? He breached contract and A&M supported that breach. Yeah, I see absolutely no reputation damage or recruiting material there.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94526 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:22 pm to
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ibldprplgld


Doin work son

Cardboard boxer just got owned. Aggies are so fricked.
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