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re: LSU fan: Would you trade Miles for any other coach in the SEC besides Saban?

Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:03 pm to
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If their honest, they'll admit they want one that could have delivered Speedy Noil.


you guys are obsessed with Speedy Noil
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:03 pm to
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i've seen the film. ole miss blanketed beckham all three times with man to man and a safety helping. both times mett forced the ball instead of checking down. like someone stated earlier, any DB with a D1 scholarship should pick off any of those three passes. mett made huge mental errors that no gameplan would have overcome in those situations


Guess Miles should learn how to manage a game.

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Wallace was 30/39 in the game with no picks

Still doesn't mean that was his best game of his career. Idaho's defense was more challenging for Bo last year. Can't boast about a guys stats going up against a helpless defense.

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i'm asking how such a superior coach would let such an inferior coach come back from 17 down in the second half to tie the game. lsu had gift wrapped two possessions for ole miss, throwing two awful picks in the endzone. a superior coach wouldn't have allowed such a comeback from such an allegedly inferior coach


Seems like Freeze knew what he was doing #27-24
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:03 pm to
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This OM-LSU argument is silly and pointless IMO.

OM is on the rise. Freeze appears to be doing good things there. We shall see if that continues. Les Miles has succeeded at the highest level of college football and has a resume second to only one. It's a fact LSU is a much stronger program than Ole Miss at the moment, and has been for some time...That's not to say that will always be the case, things can and probably will change at some point. Ole Miss is starting to get itself back into the "big time"... probably has a ways to go, but nonetheless it appears that it's happening under Freeze. That said, LSU has been elite for 12+ years now and has arguably gotten even more consistent the last 4-5 years under Miles than the prior 7+ seasons under Saban&Miles, which was a pretty damn good stretch in itself. LSU's WORST season in the last decade (2008, 8-5) is comparable to Ole Miss' BEST seasons (2008/2009, 9-4) in the last decade.
Nice to know there are STILL some logical/reasonable folks left on this board.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:04 pm to
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REBEL5 AC


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Thank you. You da man



thanks for agreeing that LSU is a much stronger program and has been for a long time...among other things.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Seems like Freeze knew what he was doing #27-24

so seasons and coaching know-how are determined by one game sample sizes. good to know
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Guess Miles should learn how to manage a game.

so every time a qb throws an interception, it's the coach's fault? again, good to know. guess freeze should have taught your punt returner how to field punts in 2012. what an idiot, amirite?
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Still doesn't mean that was his best game of his career.

it was the best game of his career. wouldn't doubt it if wallace felt that was as well
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:06 pm to
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thanks for agreeing that LSU is a much stronger program and has been for a long time


Did I ever say otherwise?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:06 pm to
No, and really not Saban either. We've enjoyed more success with Miles since Saban left. In our program Saban wasn't as good a coach as he is now at Alabama.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:07 pm to
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Did I ever say otherwise?


sweet Jesus

i honestly think you may have a learning disability
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:10 pm to
Not an LSU fan but I'd say only for Saban. Miles is always good for some doofy moments that are easy to make fun of but the guy is a great coach. He recruits to his needs and surrounds himself with top shelf assistants. One of the best CEO coaches out there.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
16735 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:10 pm to
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sweet Jesus

i honestly think you may have a learning disability


The only thing I have said is that Freeze has outcoached Miles. Seems like a pretty reasonable opinion considering the facts of the two games. You guys ran with it...so, I ran with it and boom...three hours of work felt like 10 minutes.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:12 pm to
Les Miles just doesn't win in a fashion that makes me believe he could do it without elite level talent, and at that point how good of a gameday coach is he really?

His teams play down to the competition more than any other and he is good for at least a couple game-changing "WTF" moments a year. I just don't think he is all that great of an Xs and Os guy, and I know from reading Tiger rant that this is hardly an uncommon opinion even among LSU fans.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:14 pm to
you said Freeze >> Miles. but if LSU is presently a much superior program wouldnt that make Miles >> Freeze.

the fact that you're even arguing that Freeze is better than Miles is mind boggling to me
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:16 pm to
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Les Miles just doesn't win in a fashion that makes me believe he could do it without elite level talent, and at that point how good of a gameday coach is he really?


he won at OSU. check out their records before he arrived.

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His teams play down to the competition more than any other


no they don't

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and I know from reading Tiger rant that this is hardly an uncommon opinion even among LSU fans.


yes...please go by what they say on the Tiger Rant
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:16 pm to
I'm not saying Freeze is better than Miles, but I'm not sure Miles could have gotten anymore wins out of Ole Miss the last couple of years. His teams just seem to get by on talent alone so often.
Posted by TT9
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:17 pm to
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Les Miles just doesn't win in a fashion that makes me believe he could do it without elite level talent, and at that point how good of a gameday coach is he really?

no coach has wasted more talent than he has.

If not for chief he'd been fired years ago.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:18 pm to
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no...and i wouldn't trade him for Saban either



Still hate championships, huh, Choctaw?

Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:18 pm to
alright...i'm out. i see this is just going to be another flame LSU thread. color me shocked.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Still hate championships, huh, Choctaw?


missed me, didn't you?
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:20 pm to
I came back in an attempt to try to bring some darkness into that eternally sunshine filled melon head of yours.

You're like Tom Cullen from the Stand.

M-O-O-N. That spells 21-0
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 2:20 pm to
Most people know that freeze >>> Less.


Choc, you have always been a huge Less homer so I know its hard for you to see, but freeze has looked and been much better than Less head to head.

This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 2:23 pm
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