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Lost revenues from cancelled games

Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Todd Greene
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:04 pm
Should the BIG & PAC have to pay teams for lost revenues by cancelling their OOC games and going to a conference only schedule? I say h... Yes! If they can travel to and fro to play their respective conference games, then by Henry they can send USC to Dallas to play BAMA in a game that guarantees each participant 6mil. Thoughts?
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Oswald31
Member since Mar 2019
310 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:05 pm to
There's not going to be any college football so this question is irrelevant.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48888 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Thoughts


I'm sure there is a provision that allows games to be canceled by way of natural diaster, acts of God etc

Plus there is not going to be any football this Fall
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Lost revenues from cancelled games

With all of the potential cancellations and schedule reshuffling, we're probably also not talking enough about how the lack of football weekends will affect local businesses that rely on those six or seven weekends a year.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22528 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:23 pm to
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I'm sure there is a provision that allows games to be canceled by way of natural diaster, acts of God etc

Plus there is not going to be any football this Fall


Yeah, it's called Force Majeure and they exist in damn near all contracts.

Those other teams are just fricked.

ETA: However, maybe a good lawyer could argue that they canceled long before a decision in that direction could reasonably be made and they did not do everything they could to make the event happen. Especially since they are still having the conference games - that could be a big deal.

This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 1:28 pm to
Sure, go around suing your colleagues while everyone is hurting already. Good luck getting teams to agree to play you in these type games in the future.
Posted by 256Rebel
Member since Dec 2017
402 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:29 pm to
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Yeah, it's called Force Majeure and they exist in damn near all contracts. Those other teams are just fricked. ETA: However, maybe a good lawyer could argue that they canceled long before a decision in that direction could reasonably be made and they did not do everything they could to make the event happen. Especially since they are still having the conference games - that could be a big deal.


Agreed. That same good lawyer might also argue that if it's safe to play 10 of your scheduled games (all of which involve someone crossing state lines), then what about force majeure makes the cancelled games special? I do not claim to know the correct answer, what it seems like what is good for one (or ten) should be good for all.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:41 pm to
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There's not going to be any college football so this question is irrelevant.


Absolutely correct.....

Fall sports are toast

Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2112 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 3:47 pm to
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Agreed. That same good lawyer might also argue that if it's safe to play 10 of your scheduled games (all of which involve someone crossing state lines), then what about force majeure makes the cancelled games special? I do not claim to know the correct answer, what it seems like what is good for one (or ten) should be good for all.
This. If it's OK to play conference games, pretty hard to argue force majeure as to other games. They may have a sound policy reason for doing so (I disagree), but their policy decision is not FM, which contemplates something truly beyond the control of the parties.

Now, if the state government were to shut down travel or something like that, then you'd have FM. But, merely deciding for yourself that you don't think it's prudent is not FM.

One note: as we've seen historically, the liquidated damage clauses in these contracts are often pretty weak, so the exposure for making the decision to cancel may not be that much.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:00 pm to
Season isn’t happening!

LSU back to back!

Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:06 pm to
You ready for A1 to pay
Ga State
Kent state
Tenn Martin
$2MM each and not play?

Freakin joke of OOC
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:11 pm to
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With all of the potential cancellations and schedule reshuffling, we're probably also not talking enough about how the lack of football weekends will affect local businesses that rely on those six or seven weekends a year.



Someone posted an article saying it would cost Tuscsloosa Economy $2BB.

Compound that across every major program...I’m not sure how they can afford not to have a conference only season.

I don’t see sunbelt type schools making it.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22528 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:59 pm to
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Sure, go around suing your colleagues while everyone is hurting already. Good luck getting teams to agree to play you in these type games in the future.



They signed the contract and they backed out of it. If they are worried about schools holding them to a contract they agreed to, then perhaps they shouldn't sign them to begin with.

And maybe they should have thought about that before they canceled the games prematurely while keeping others.

This is the reason why they do that to begin with. These teams could have done other games with similar paydays, or at the very least - a payday.

Be interesting to see what, if anything, happens in this. At first I was thinking the clause would keep them safe. The more I think about it, the more I think they have a case.

I'm not a lawyer, but I do deal with contracts a good bit.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:00 am to
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guarantees each participant 6mi



This is the reason it was cancelled. The guarantee part can’t be covered unless it is a packed house which will never happen
Posted by Todd Greene
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2019
2457 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 5:14 am to
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quote:
Agreed. That same good lawyer might also argue that if it's safe to play 10 of your scheduled games (all of which involve someone crossing state lines), then what about force majeure makes the cancelled games special? I do not claim to know the correct answer, what it seems like what is good for one (or ten) should be good for all.
This. If it's OK to play conference games, pretty hard to argue force majeure as to other games. They may have a sound policy reason for doing so (I disagree), but their policy decision is not FM, which contemplates something truly beyond the control of the parties.

Now, if the state government were to shut down travel or something like that, then you'd have FM. But, merely deciding for yourself that you don't think it's prudent is not FM.

One note: as we've seen historically, the liquidated damage clauses in these contracts are often pretty weak, so the exposure for making the decision to cancel may not be that much.





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