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re: Looking forward: UF @ Texas A&M

Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by Aggie Tex-pat
Sacramento, CA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:32 pm to
I'm no expert, though I do remember seeing something about this.

I believe most of the splits seen in practice were no wider than average, but I would imagine we will adapt and go wider if some of the SEC DL's force it.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:32 pm to
I was more interested in how we used the diamond and the pistol, which we broke out the last few scrimmages. The wide splits don't bother me that much in the diamond because you have an inside blocker or two, and it actually mimics traditional power running while still spreading out the defense. What I fear is Kliff just reverting to four and five wide the second our offense gets stagnant because he is so much more familiar with traditional air raid. The pistol is essentially a one back offense that doesn't favor one side. A nice wrinkle, but nothing close to actually lining up and pounding it down their throats.

I will say this, the o-line does look good, and I hope to be pleasantly surprised with the run/pass balance. The wide splits do affect them, though.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:42 pm to
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Never said Harrison was better than Ced O, though he has more potential. Dude is huge and Sherm stated several times he was a future 1st Rounder in his opinion. Say what you will about Sherm but he did have a viable opinion on that topic as a former OC, HC, and GM in the NFL.


Ced-O was Sherman's favorite offensive line recruit, and the one he said could be a hall of famer. I heard it from his mouth.

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The point on the McNeal fumble (which was at the end of a long run and catch past the 50 btw) was that it was a huge momentum swing. OSU scored right afterward and it was clear our offense and defense lost their confidence. It was the turning point of the game.


Still had the lead at that point, with plenty of time left. A better team could have overcome that. Instead they followed it up with more turnovers. It may have been a turning point, but my original point, about it not being a 1 point game, since they literally handed us 6 points and the ball, and they took a safety... stands. They were 10 points better than us, even with their poor first half.

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If you honestly think this D resembles the Kines' D I am at a loss. Kines openly admitted we just didn't have any horses and that he had to work on trying to teach players to use angles because they didn't have the speed to keep up with other teams. We had multiple walk ons in the 2 Deep. I remember watching the OU game and watching them roll up 66 on us at Kyle almost as easily as they rolled up 77 on the '03 team. We gave up more than 40 to 7 teams that year. You really think we are that bad? Really?


I think we are that bad on defense. I think we will have a bottom 4 defense in the SEC. I hope to be pleasantly surprised, and I think our offense will be 5th or 6th best, so we won't do too poorly, but I don't think this is a good team. I think almost everything else within the program is heading in the right direction, from recruiting, to culture, to facilities, but our offensive and defensive coordinators are both bad hires. Can I not be 90% satisfied with Aggie Football without being half glass empty kind of person?

You're just a kool-aid kinda guy. That isn't a bad thing, but really, ask yourself some honest questions every once in a while, and find something you don't like with the program. Nick Saban isn't sitting in the Bright Complex. It ain't perfect. You wouldn't a bad Aggie for thinking so.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:44 pm to
UF is going to run on Texas A&M. How much and how effectively will depend a lot on how UF decides to play the passing game.

Defensively, Florida will be tougher than they were in week 1. That being said, UF did force 5 three and outs, did not allow a passing TD, forced two turnovers, and did only allow 320 yards on 79 plays, so it's not like they were giving up chunks of yardage. And they did all of that while not playing very well.

The game will ultimately come down to whether or not UF can mount a relatively effective compliment to their running game with Driskel throwing the ball. It doesn't have to be explosive necessarily, it just has to be enough to punish Texas A&M for loading the box.

We'll see. I think Florida will look much better next week because they won't be dicking around overlooking Texas A&M like they did Bowling Green this week.

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:51 pm to
This game has the potential to look more like a Big 12 game rather than an SEC game.

If TAMU can get up by a couple of scores, the Aggies can grind out a win.

The Aggies defense, however, may be just the ticket for UF's offense to get in gear.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 5:58 pm to
This isn't going to be a big 12 game. Uf's defense is too good to let that happen.

They had a ho-hum game against Bowling Green - but even with the problems on offense they still only gave up 2 touchdowns.

I think people's perspectives on UF after one game against a MAC school is a little off. UF fans have been ridiculous about it. You'd think UF lost.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33233 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:02 pm to
I think our defense is a lot better than what they showed in the first game. The coaching staff basically stupidly underestimated Bowling Green and it almost bit us in the arse.

We played a basic four-man front with a soft zone for most of the game. There was very little in terms of blitzes and different defensive looks. I think they'll look better when they start throwing out some blitz packages and move guys around on defense to confuse the offense.

Our offense on the other hand is what it is. I don't think there's a "secret playbook". Muschamp is trying to emulate Bama and LSU by pounding the other team with the run but he doesn't have the horses or a physical enough team to do it.
This post was edited on 9/2/12 at 6:10 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:11 pm to
No offense to the Gator fans, but if you don't think TAMU has a lot more talent...on offense at least...and a lot better coaching than Bowling Green, then you may be in for a rude awakening.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4337 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:25 pm to
Oops.
This post was edited on 9/2/12 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:28 pm to
My bad.
This post was edited on 9/2/12 at 6:29 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:29 pm to
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TeLaFaWX,

If you thought that Dustin Harris looked like our best Coverage CB, I don't know what else to say.


I meant the other Harris.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:52 pm to
UH ran 38% last year and passed 62% of the time. That's not a 4:1 ratio.

And that was with Keenum. We'll run more than 38% because we have great RBs, a veteran OL, and a freshman QB. Expect us to run about 45% of the time.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:54 pm to
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UH ran 38% last year and passed 62% of the time. That's not a 4:1 ratio.

And that was with Keenum. We'll run more than 38% because we have great RBs, a veteran OL, and a freshman QB. Expect us to run about 45% of the time.


Look at what happened when they played a team that could stop the run, i.e. Penn State. Teams in the SEC can stop the run.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 6:58 pm to
Penn St's DL vs the UH OL isn't analogous at all of SEC DL to the A&M OL.

Try again.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 7:04 pm to
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Penn St's DL vs the UH OL isn't analogous at all of SEC DL to the A&M OL.


It is more so than the rest of UofH's competition last season...
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48209 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 7:11 pm to
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We'll run more than 38% because we have great RBs


Remains to be seen if any of them will be great in 2012. Michael was in 2011 but we will see after ACL surgery. Malena ran the ball 67 times for 259 yards (3.9 avg) last year behind the same line. Wiliams is a true freshman. I expect Michael to be tough, but not sure about the others. Could be good, could be average or worse.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 7:24 pm to
Running the ball less than 50% is a recipe for disaster, Sumlin had no choice at UH because of the lack of talent overall...he knows you have to run to win..btw...a true stat: 89% of games are won in college football by the team that outrushes its opponent...if A&M can rush for over 175 yds on Saturday..it may be a bad day for us, and conversely, if we rush for over 175 yds...bad day for ATM....thats if there are no bad ratio of turnovers of course. 200 yds of rushing by us would be fine by me in a boring game....Ws are pretty in SEC battles.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 7:39 pm to
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Running the ball less than 50% is a recipe for disaster, Sumlin had no choice at UH because of the lack of talent overall...he knows you have to run to win


I do not kige this
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 8:39 pm to
No way we run more than 50% of the time. Not in Sumlin and KK's offense. Now the short passing game to backs will act like a running game.

A&M opens as a 2.5 point favorit.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 8:58 pm to
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Malena ran the ball 67 times for 259 yards (3.9 avg) last year behind the same line.


You lack context. Let me provide it.

Ben Malena was the #3 back last year. Cyrus Gray had over 1,000 yards as the #2 back.
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