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Lets talk penalties in the SEC over the last decade. Do refs really play favorites?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:54 pm
All of the following stats are from the 2008 season through the 2017 season. Enjoy.
**Penalty Yards Per Game since 2008**
1. Alabama: 40.11 YPG
2. Mississippi St: 43.52 YPG
3. Tennessee: 43.84 YPG
4. South Carolina: 44.38 YPG
5. Vanderbilt: 45.69 YPG
6. Kentucky: 45.78 YPG
7. Arkansas: 47.13 YPG
8. Ole Miss: 47.71 YPG
9. Missouri: 49.55 YPG
10. Auburn: 49.63 YPG
11. LSU: 50.83 YPG
12. Georgia: 51.33 YPG
13. Texas A&M: 52.23 YPG
14. Florida: 58.36 YPG
**Opponent's Penalty Yards Per Game since 2008**
1. Auburn: 40.64 YPG
2. Alabama: 40.81 YPG
3. Georgia: 43.04 YPG
4. LSU: 43.67 YPG
5. South Carolina: 44.72 YPG
6. Arkansas: 45.08 YPG
7. Mississippi St: 45.53 YPG
8. Florida: 46.26 YPG
9. Ole Miss: 47.63 YPG
10. Kentucky: 49.62 YPG
11. Tennessee: 49.98 YPG
12. Missouri: 50.08 YPG
13. Texas A&M: 50.67 YPG
14. Vanderbilt: 51.5 YPG
**Penalty Yards Per HOME Game**
1. Alabama: 38.46 YPG
2. Tennessee: 42.61 YPG
3. Mississippi St: 43.34 YPG
4. South Carolina: 43.88 YPG
5. Ole Miss : 44.41 YPG
6. Georgia: 44.97 YPG
7. Texas A&M: 45.66 YPG
8. Arkansas: 46.22 YPG
9. Vanderbilt: 46.56 YPG
10. Auburn: 47.12 YPG
11. Kentucky: 48.49 YPG
12. LSU: 48.63 YPG
13. Missouri: 49.49 YPG
14. Florida: 57.91 YPG
**NOTE: For Missouri and Texas A&M, only the 2012-2017 seasons are counted.
EDIT To add more to OP
**Penalty Yards Per ROAD Game**
1. Kentucky: 41.17 YPG
2. Mississippi St: 42.77 YPG
3. Alabama: 43.14 YPG
4. South Carolina: 43.31 YPG
5. Tennessee: 44.18 YPG
6. Arkansas: 44.41 YPG
7. Vanderbilt: 47.11 YPG
8. Missouri: 48.4 YPG
9. Auburn: 50.61 YPG
10. Ole Miss: 51.42 YPG
11. LSU: 54.93 YPG
12. Florida: 56.76 YPG
13. Texas A&M: 57.77 YPG
14. Georgia: 60.56 YPG
**Penalty Yards Difference HOME vs AWAY**
(sorted by yards difference while at HOME)
1. Georgia: +15.59
2. Texas A&M: +12.11
3. Ole Miss: +7.01
4. LSU: +6.3
5. Alabama: +4.68
6. Auburn: +3.49
7. Tennessee: +1.57
8. Vanderbilt: +0.55
9. Mississippi St: -0.57
10. South Carolina: -0.57
11. Missouri: -1.09
12. Florida: -1.15
13. Arkansas: -1.81
14. Kentucky: -7.32
**Penalty Yards Per Game since 2008**
1. Alabama: 40.11 YPG
2. Mississippi St: 43.52 YPG
3. Tennessee: 43.84 YPG
4. South Carolina: 44.38 YPG
5. Vanderbilt: 45.69 YPG
6. Kentucky: 45.78 YPG
7. Arkansas: 47.13 YPG
8. Ole Miss: 47.71 YPG
9. Missouri: 49.55 YPG
10. Auburn: 49.63 YPG
11. LSU: 50.83 YPG
12. Georgia: 51.33 YPG
13. Texas A&M: 52.23 YPG
14. Florida: 58.36 YPG
**Opponent's Penalty Yards Per Game since 2008**
1. Auburn: 40.64 YPG
2. Alabama: 40.81 YPG
3. Georgia: 43.04 YPG
4. LSU: 43.67 YPG
5. South Carolina: 44.72 YPG
6. Arkansas: 45.08 YPG
7. Mississippi St: 45.53 YPG
8. Florida: 46.26 YPG
9. Ole Miss: 47.63 YPG
10. Kentucky: 49.62 YPG
11. Tennessee: 49.98 YPG
12. Missouri: 50.08 YPG
13. Texas A&M: 50.67 YPG
14. Vanderbilt: 51.5 YPG
**Penalty Yards Per HOME Game**
1. Alabama: 38.46 YPG
2. Tennessee: 42.61 YPG
3. Mississippi St: 43.34 YPG
4. South Carolina: 43.88 YPG
5. Ole Miss : 44.41 YPG
6. Georgia: 44.97 YPG
7. Texas A&M: 45.66 YPG
8. Arkansas: 46.22 YPG
9. Vanderbilt: 46.56 YPG
10. Auburn: 47.12 YPG
11. Kentucky: 48.49 YPG
12. LSU: 48.63 YPG
13. Missouri: 49.49 YPG
14. Florida: 57.91 YPG
**NOTE: For Missouri and Texas A&M, only the 2012-2017 seasons are counted.
EDIT To add more to OP
**Penalty Yards Per ROAD Game**
1. Kentucky: 41.17 YPG
2. Mississippi St: 42.77 YPG
3. Alabama: 43.14 YPG
4. South Carolina: 43.31 YPG
5. Tennessee: 44.18 YPG
6. Arkansas: 44.41 YPG
7. Vanderbilt: 47.11 YPG
8. Missouri: 48.4 YPG
9. Auburn: 50.61 YPG
10. Ole Miss: 51.42 YPG
11. LSU: 54.93 YPG
12. Florida: 56.76 YPG
13. Texas A&M: 57.77 YPG
14. Georgia: 60.56 YPG
**Penalty Yards Difference HOME vs AWAY**
(sorted by yards difference while at HOME)
1. Georgia: +15.59
2. Texas A&M: +12.11
3. Ole Miss: +7.01
4. LSU: +6.3
5. Alabama: +4.68
6. Auburn: +3.49
7. Tennessee: +1.57
8. Vanderbilt: +0.55
9. Mississippi St: -0.57
10. South Carolina: -0.57
11. Missouri: -1.09
12. Florida: -1.15
13. Arkansas: -1.81
14. Kentucky: -7.32
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 12:20 am
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:55 pm to Sean Bean
The big 3 down here are always near in the bottom in penalties. There really must be something in the water.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:02 pm to Sean Bean
Yards alone are not a quality metric.
The quality of the penalty is what really matters. How many big plays do bad calls remove? How often is momentum disrupted by bad calls? How many big plays occurred due to missed calls? Etc.
If I were a crooked ref and didn't want to get caught, I'd call a lot of relatively meaningless fouls against my preferred team so that I could call meaningful fouls against the other team and still defeat lists like this.
The quality of the penalty is what really matters. How many big plays do bad calls remove? How often is momentum disrupted by bad calls? How many big plays occurred due to missed calls? Etc.
If I were a crooked ref and didn't want to get caught, I'd call a lot of relatively meaningless fouls against my preferred team so that I could call meaningful fouls against the other team and still defeat lists like this.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:05 pm to weremoose
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Yards alone are not a quality metric.
The quality of the penalty is what really matters. How many big plays do bad calls remove? How often is momentum disrupted by bad calls? How many big plays occurred due to missed calls? Etc.
If I were a crooked ref and didn't want to get caught, I'd call a lot of relatively meaningless fouls against my preferred team so that I could call meaningful fouls against the other team and still defeat lists like this.
Did you copy and paste this from the Tiger Rant?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:08 pm to SEC Alum
You should be able to tell that no Louisianan wrote that by the reasonably correct grammar and spelling.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:11 pm to weremoose
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:15 pm to Sean Bean
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Do officials really play favorites?
To answer this you have to look at more than just total penalties called and yardage although those do tell a substantial part of the story. You also need to look at key calls, ball spots, and things like this:
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:17 pm to KSGamecock
You can't post that. Refs are ALWAYS screwing over lsu
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:21 pm to weremoose
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Yards alone are not a quality metric.
The quality of the penalty is what really matters. How many big plays do bad calls remove? How often is momentum disrupted by bad calls? How many big plays occurred due to missed calls? Etc.
If I were a crooked ref and didn't want to get caught, I'd call a lot of relatively meaningless fouls against my preferred team so that I could call meaningful fouls against the other team and still defeat lists like this.
This is a very true statement brother. Perhaps the SEC officials favor Arkansas by not extending its opponents drives during crucial 3rd downs....
Opponent's 1st downs gained off of a penalty on 3rd down
1. Arkansas: 30
2. Kentucky: 39
3. Alabama: 43
4. Tennessee: 44
5. Vanderbilt: 45
5. Ole Miss: 45
5. Missouri: 45
5. Texas A&M: 45
9. South Carolina: 46
10. Mississippi St: 47
11. LSU: 52
11. Georgia: 52
13. Florida: 62
14. Auburn: 70
Posted on 6/5/18 at 11:23 pm to Sean Bean
Bert seemed to get on pretty well with some of the ref crews. I know we did more screwing than being screwed these past five years.
I had the opposite feeling during Petrino and Nutt's tenures.
I had the opposite feeling during Petrino and Nutt's tenures.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:49 am to weremoose
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Bert seemed to get on pretty well with some of the ref crews.
I remember him getting madder than a hornet at some.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 3:04 am to weremoose
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How often is momentum disrupted by bad calls?
This is where OP loses and Bama wins NC’s on the reg.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 3:08 am
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:10 am to Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:27 am to KSGamecock
You cheer for a former ACC team that brings nothing to the SEC except a fatass online catfish that makes Tuscaloser get hard!
And you got owned, AGAIN, on the PTB!
As always, I at you and your kin!
Congrats on winning the most trailer park award?
And you got owned, AGAIN, on the PTB!
As always, I
at you and your kin! Congrats on winning the most trailer park award?
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 4:30 am
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:30 am to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:31 am to KSGamecock
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 4:35 am
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:04 am to Sean Bean
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1. Arkansas: 30
2. Kentucky: 39
3. Alabama: 43
4. Tennessee: 44
5. Vanderbilt: 45
5. Ole Miss: 45
5. Missouri: 45
5. Texas A&M: 45
9. South Carolina: 46
10. Mississippi St: 47
11. LSU: 52
11. Georgia: 52
13. Florida: 62
14. Auburn: 70
Most of these probably occurred during Ellis Johnson's tenure as DC.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:37 am to Sean Bean
I applaud you for bringing a stat other that the usually opponents penalties yards per game stat that bama fans use to “prove” their point that they don’t get preferential treatment. FWIW, I don’t believe it[preferential treatment], but the one stat was getting a bit overused and didn’t actually show anything.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 7:31 am
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:16 am to Sean Bean
We've been last in the country and/or in the bottom five nationally almost every year since 2008 in opponent's penalties/yds.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 6:35 am to Sean Bean
Watch the games. What you’ll see is Alabama get about 20 calls in their favor at crucial times. Once the game is well in hand, the refs will start throwing silly flags on Alabama to make it seem like it was fair to begin with.
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