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re: Let's talk Auburn-Clemson
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:21 am to theclash
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:21 am to theclash
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i believe, "your gayness," that you ladies started the rant. we will just finish it. i just popped over - sorry boys, not popped off - because someone mentioned the idiocy of this thread.
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha...
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:22 am to DonaldDuckworth
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Every last one of us were rooting for you guys to win the natty
That's a negative. frick Clemson.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:24 am to theclash
I don't know if you've ever listened to the Finebaum show but there is an Auburn fan, I-man, that calls in all the time and talks a ton of shite, but never actually talks football...and when pressed to do so, proves that he doesn't know much about it. You remind me a lot of him. It's way more about trolling than it is about football...and nobody likes a troll. You haven't made one valid point yet about why it is that you believe Clemson is going to wipe the floor with AU..you just want everyone to take your word for it.
What is it about last year's game, and last year's teams vs this year, convinces you that this is the case? Or am I right...that you don't have a clue and just came here to get your troll rocks off?
What is it about last year's game, and last year's teams vs this year, convinces you that this is the case? Or am I right...that you don't have a clue and just came here to get your troll rocks off?
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:26 am to DonaldDuckworth
Just dont forget in the optimism, Clemson also slept walked through a good bit of the season offensively. Auburn was 1st game...but that showed with your QB issues, Clemson could throw out a subpar game, with subpar QB play, and still win it (or do you think you faced the same focused Watson that Bama did?). The sleepwalk is evident with NC State and Pitt. Check how they looked after Pitt woke them up.
You can think I'm BSing, but I'm realistic to remember that certain generational talent having 14-15+ interceptions on his resume the last 2 years, was a big factor to why he didn't get the Heisman votes. So forgive me if I notice there was a ton of room for improvement that seems to be missed, and that a serviceable QB with less turnovers could end up with similar results. Guess we will see in 2-1/2 weeks.
You can think I'm BSing, but I'm realistic to remember that certain generational talent having 14-15+ interceptions on his resume the last 2 years, was a big factor to why he didn't get the Heisman votes. So forgive me if I notice there was a ton of room for improvement that seems to be missed, and that a serviceable QB with less turnovers could end up with similar results. Guess we will see in 2-1/2 weeks.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:35 am to CUTigers78
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Clemson also slept walked through a good bit of the season offensively. Auburn was 1st game...but that showed with your QB issues, Clemson could throw out a subpar game, with subpar QB play, and still win it.
Got it...so Clemson played a subpar game but Auburn came to play last year...got it
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but I'm realistic to remember that certain generational talent having 14-15+ interceptions on his resume the last 2 years
...and an outside cat is more likely to get hit by a car than an inside cat. Dude threw for like 10,000 yards and was picked a dozen or so times. If you think that someone is going to walk in and be just as effective, it isn't Auburn fans having a reality problem
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:36 am to DonaldDuckworth
pretty simply - defense. a stout running game and wr's surrounding a plethora of qb's. oh, and the oline. the dline and oline are better than last year and football is won in the trenches. that is why you will lose. this is not rocket science, nor bragging. it just "is"
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:38 am to theclash
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pretty simply - defense. a stout running game and wr's surrounding a plethora of qb's. oh, and the oline. the dline and oline are better than last year and football is won in the trenches. that is why you will lose. this is not rocket science, nor bragging. it just "is"
Auburn will run for 300 yards on that shitty defense.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:38 am to DonaldDuckworth
are you giddy about a loss last yr?? sounds kinda moronic. sounds like you may like a "salty d" - well, au is about to get one
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:40 am to Aurebelman
after our win, i will wish you well in the "clairol bowl"
- clemson has other matters to deal with
- clemson has other matters to deal with
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:40 am to TideSaint
I don't put much stock in last year's score. As I was watching the game, I was honest with myself to recognize that if Auburn came out swinging, Clemson probably could've matched the points, and we'd be talking about a 35-34 type game instead. The game almost bit Dabo in the arse on the final play, but I was pretty convinced he was just doing what he needed to do to win, and nothing more than that...Auburn was self-destructing enough without Clemson's help, so Dabo showing a full hand in week 1 was unnecessary.
This year, I think Auburn has a reasonable shot at winning, but I hope they don't over-prepare for it & forget about GSU's offense in week 1....
This year, I think Auburn has a reasonable shot at winning, but I hope they don't over-prepare for it & forget about GSU's offense in week 1....
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:42 am to CUTigers78
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So forgive me if I notice there was a ton of room for improvement that seems to be missed, and that a serviceable QB with less turnovers could end up with similar results.
He had 50 fricking touchdowns last year, which is more than half of the SEC's team total. You're not going to duplicate that one-man machine. Sure you'll have a good team, but I'm curious how you think you're going to generate that production again.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:46 am to Aurebelman
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:49 am to SlowEasyConfident
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That chicken Heydt ruined a perfect season, no doubt about it.
Hold up now.
You can't get upset with the officiating in the Pitt game, yet excuse the horrific call made by the officials in your Florida State game that negated a 42 yard run by Dalvin Cook in the 4th quarter with the Seminoles in the lead.
Jimbo got a personal foul because of it to move it back an additional 15 yards to kill their drive.
Kirk Herbstreit was incredulous when he watched the replay. It was an absolutely horrendous call.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:52 am to TideSaint
Here's an article of the penalty mentioned above:
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No. 3 Clemson beat No. 12 Florida State 37-34 on Saturday night at Doak Campbell Stadium. However there was one particular penalty during the game that FSU head coach Jimbo Fisher was incensed over, both when the penalty was called and after the game was over.
In the fourth quarter, the ‘Noles were leading 28-26 and had the ball. On 1st and 10, FSU fullback Freddie Stevenson was called for an illegal block that negated a huge Dalvin Cook run that ended deep in Clemson territory.
After the game, Fisher called the penalty “cowardly, gutless, and wrong.” On Sunday, the ACC announced a reprimand for Fisher, including a fine of $20,000. Pittsburgh head coach Patt Narduzzi also received a reprimand and $5,000 fine for his criticism of the officials after Pitt’s loss to Virginia Tech. Narduzzi openly complained about VT wide receivers supposedly were pushing off of his defenders. Below is an excerpt from the ACC’s official release.
“Fisher and Narduzzi’s postgame comments regarding officials were in direct violation of the ACC Sportsmanship Policy that states: “Public criticism of officials or public comments evaluating the officiating of particular contests is not in the best interest of intercollegiate athletics. Individuals associated with the athletics program are prohibited, therefore, from commenting while acting in an official capacity on officiating other than directly to the Conference office.”
When FSU was up 28-26 with under 12 minutes left, Cook broke a big run and was downed deep into Clemson territory. It appeared the Seminoles were close to taking total control.
But there was one problem: a flag on the field. FSU fullback Freddie Stevenson was called for an illegal block on the play.
Fisher was completely incensed on the sideline over the call, at one point standing several yards onto the field. Some part of the fallout resulted in a sideline warning and a subsequent penalty for 15 yards to back the ‘Noles up even further into their own territory.
Here, he appeared to tell an official, “You f***ed us.”
What kind of illegal block was this?
A block below the waist is not the same thing as a chop block, which is what some called this play. Chop blocks, which are illegal, occur when an offensive player blocks a defender below the waist as that defender is also engaged up high with another blocker.
This was a block below the waist, though. And blocks below the waist can be legal. The relevant definition of an illegal block below the waist is found in the NCAA rulebook. Basically, below-the-waist blocks are illegal downfield, but only if they come from the back or the side:
All players after the ball has left the tackle box, are allowed to block below the waist only if the force of the initial contact is directed from the front. “From the front” is understood to mean within the clock-face region between “10 o’clock and 2 o’clock” forward of the player being blocked.
Take a look at the play again. It looks borderline, but Stevenson appears to have led from the front with this block initially, striking safety Van Smith in the right thigh, while also getting a little tangled up with him on the way down:
It wasn’t a chop block, and it was close to a totally legal block regardless. Whether Stevenson hit Smith on the side of the thigh is up for debate, though it was probably the incidental trip that made the block look much more physical than it was.
After the game, Fisher was livid. You can see where he’s coming from here.
"It was ridiculous," Fisher said. "It was not a chop. It was a not chop. I will tell you what: you hold coaches accountable, you hold players accountable; hold the damn officials accountable. It is garbage, and then to call another penalty on the sideline is even more garbage. It's cowardly, gutless, and wrong.”
Fisher was also unhappy about hits on quarterback Deondre Francois, and he lost defensive back Trey Marshall to a targeting call.
"They can take it, fine it, do whatever they want to do with that. That's a fact. Look at the film. It's ridiculous that they do that. That was a huge call in the game. Now, still had chances to win the game after that, [but] that was ridiculous, and the guy wasn't even in position to make the call."
Florida State was forced to punt on the drive, Clemson was able to score a 46-yard field goal on its next drive to go ahead 29-28 with five minutes left. The ‘Noles were able to counter with a touchdown of their own, but Clemson’s offense drove downfield to score with two minutes left to seal a Tigers’ 37-34 victory.
The call for a block below the waist clearly negated a huge Cook run, one that likely would have resulted in an FSU score given how deep they were in Clemson territory.
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:57 am to TideSaint
It shows even playing in the ACC, Clemson should have had 2 loses. Imagine playing a SEC schedule.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:03 am to TideSaint
You can mention that one all you want...it's debatable whether that was a block in the back/block below the waist, and it does fit the rule.
Either way, did it negate a TD, or just a run (it wasn't late in the game btw, top of 4th quarter)?? There's still no guarantee FSU would have had any TD and not just a FG...no one knows that. But...Did FL State have another chance to win? Dalvin Cook, running wide open for a long pass play, drops the ball, on 3rd down...4th quarter....ring a bell?? They had a ton of time to make that one controversial call up. Clemson on 3 legitimate third down stops that drove Pitt down to the goal line twice with the multiple 15 yard penalties (2 of those in one series, keeping 2 drives alive when they should have been dead)...yeak, ok.
Either way, did it negate a TD, or just a run (it wasn't late in the game btw, top of 4th quarter)?? There's still no guarantee FSU would have had any TD and not just a FG...no one knows that. But...Did FL State have another chance to win? Dalvin Cook, running wide open for a long pass play, drops the ball, on 3rd down...4th quarter....ring a bell?? They had a ton of time to make that one controversial call up. Clemson on 3 legitimate third down stops that drove Pitt down to the goal line twice with the multiple 15 yard penalties (2 of those in one series, keeping 2 drives alive when they should have been dead)...yeak, ok.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:06 am to TideSaint
Except that was a perfect example of a chop block. Safety was blocked right in the back of the leg.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:07 am to Irons Puppet
we did play an sec schedule nancy, and won
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:09 am to Irons Puppet
we would love to play mizzou, florida, miss st, or ole miss. and we wouldn't be 8-5. of course, we wouldn't hire gus as a coach either - so there's that
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:14 am to theclash
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theclash
Can we ban this MF'er already?
By the way, I think I found him:

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