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Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:01 pm to JDHLaw
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The futility of Kentucky football in 2012
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The fact that UK was (and still is) bad
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UK has a two-game losing streak to a Sunbelt opponent.
Man this is some depressing shite. Condolences.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:13 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Yet all of those things aren't stopping us from having better success on the recruiting trail than your one loss team.
There are plenty of things to be optimistic about with the direction that our program is headed in. Those things just aren't showing up in the W/L column yet.
There are plenty of things to be optimistic about with the direction that our program is headed in. Those things just aren't showing up in the W/L column yet.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:15 pm to CatFan81
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Yet all of those things aren't stopping us from having better success on the recruiting trail than your one loss team.
Right, see that's good smack. Quantifiable, consensus area in which UK is doing something better than the opposing team you're talking to.
That said, of course, our 2 star recruits like Michael Sam, L'Damian Washington etc will simply continue to whoop dat arse.
....I hope.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:20 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
We've had success with two* recruits in the past too. Randall Cobb, Stevie Johnson, Danny Trevathan, etc. Hell, most of our current NFL players were 2* or 3* players. The majority were 2*.
That's being said, look at all of the recent BCS teams. Stacked with 4* and 5* players.
That's being said, look at all of the recent BCS teams. Stacked with 4* and 5* players.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:27 pm to CatFan81
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That's being said, look at all of the recent BCS teams. Stacked with 4 and 5 star players
Yeah, its an issue. Even on Mizzou's current roster, we hail the unheralded ones but you still can't say recruiting doesn't matter when DGB was nation's top recruit and guys like James Franklin, Kony Ealy, Marcus Lucas etc were 4 star guys.
On the one hand, for those reasons, Mizzou fans need to enjoy this year and probably/possibly next year while the talent on teams like UK and Tennessee is still young and learning. Cuz by law of averages if nothing else, at least half or so of those stud recruits will be legit, and even if this good year gives Pinkel a big bump in recruiting, his past few classes have been such that we may well be taking it on the chin from the UKs, Vandys and Tennessees for at least a couple years when those recruits you guys are getting are becoming sophs/juniors/seniors. It's part of the reason my fellow Mizzouians may want to slow their roll a bit, or I guess you could argue that means they should get their licks in now...cuz it seems like there's almost zero chance that UK will be anything other than a tough game two or three years from now or so.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:34 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Yeah, right now we have eight 4* in our 2014 class... I think, according to Rivals.
It's the Ohio pipeline that Stoops has opened up. We've never had a pipeline into there before to my knowledge. Stoops also attended one of the high school football powerhouses in Ohio. The same high school as Bo Pelini.
We've gotten commitments from some nice recruits from that school... and pulled a player from Nebraska that attended that school too, but he's not eligible to play until next season.
It's the Ohio pipeline that Stoops has opened up. We've never had a pipeline into there before to my knowledge. Stoops also attended one of the high school football powerhouses in Ohio. The same high school as Bo Pelini.
We've gotten commitments from some nice recruits from that school... and pulled a player from Nebraska that attended that school too, but he's not eligible to play until next season.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:41 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
MIZZOU should win this game handily Saturday... saying that... Kentucky now has a coach with good bloodlines that is doing a really good job bringing in better rated talent... things should be nothing but better for their program in the future. I want to see all the teams in the SEC to recruit well and play well... I'm from the old "you have to beat the best" school of thought...
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:43 pm to kevind1965
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MIZZOU should win this game handily Saturday.
South Carolina thought the same thing.
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Kentucky now has a coach with good bloodlines that is doing a really good job bringing in better rated talent... things should be nothing but better for their program in the future. I want to see all the teams in the SEC to recruit well and play well... I'm from the old "you have to beat the best" school of thought...
Another sensible Mizzou fan.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:46 pm to okietiger
crickets
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:49 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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crickets
Ummmmm... this thread is six pages long. I don't think "crickets" works here.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:52 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Recruiting is improving at both schools. Kentucky will bring in the better class this year (Watch for Mizzou to jump up 1 or 2 more spots by the time signing date rolls around though). One would expect Mizzou to bring in the better 2015 class. If that's the case, there's no reason Mizzou should take it on the chin from UK, Vandy, and TN. Surely, the games will be more competitive, and that will be great for the SEC and the fans.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 4:02 pm to MIZ_STL
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Kentucky will bring in the better class this year (Watch for Mizzou to jump up 1 or 2 more spots by the time signing date rolls around though).
We're the favorite for 5* DT Matt Elam. That'd bump us up a few spots too.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 4:04 pm to MIZ_STL
Not reading all 6 pages, but if it has gone this long the guess is good it has turned into a MU vs UK troll thread. In the hope that all were not trolls both schools are in the same boat.
#1) Both MU and UK are football importers, not football exporters.
#2) Both will struggle long term in the SEC because depth will always be a greater issue than it will for UGA and UF.
#1) Both MU and UK are football importers, not football exporters.
#2) Both will struggle long term in the SEC because depth will always be a greater issue than it will for UGA and UF.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 4:24 pm to Cheese Grits
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ot reading all 6 pages, but if it has gone this long the guess is good it has turned into a MU vs UK troll thread.
Not all troll. We're were last talking about recruiting classes.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 4:33 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
You sir, are quite reasonable in your assessments.
Truth: UK is not good right now, but we are essentially coming off of 3 years of probation, with scholarship losses to rival Penn State. Joker drove us into the ground after we had been to 4 straight bowls and seemed to have momentum.
We haven't won much, but in 07 we beat #1 and #8, and lost to another top 5 in Florida in a close game. We were competitive, but have backed down from there.
Yes, the record is 2-6 with a loss to WKU and a bunch of ranked teams. However, for anyone who follows UK, Stoops has made tremendous progress in 10 months at UK. He picked up 4-5 players who weren't even looking at UK who play each week now, and his recruiting for next year is shaping up to be our best ever.
The team plays a full 60 minutes and has been close to pulling out a couple of upsets.
Will we beat Missouri this weekend? Probably not, but I do expect a close game. It probably shouldn't be, but I think it could be.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 4:42 pm to Cheese Grits
Actually Cheese, the only major trolling on this page 6 is your bullshite in #2. How did that depth help UGA and UF this year when injuries hit them? Not so much.
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 4:57 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Will we beat Missouri this weekend? Probably not, but I do expect a close game. It probably shouldn't be, but I think it could be.
Yeah, like we've talked about I think the major thing on the Mizzou side is to really try to get some big bomb plays through the air early and get some separation. UK right now is probably not as engineered to play from behind as Stoops would like. If you're talking about grinding out a game you lead on the ground or keeping a close game close entering the 4th by virtue of slow drives and running it a lot, UK can do that. Mizzou wants to get out to the quick strike, get a nice enough cushion early to force the Cats to have to try to make big plays down the field.
If Mizzou can succeed in doing that early, like it did against Florida or Vandy...or hell even like we did against South Carolina in the first half, I think we should be OK. Because unfortunately for UK, Robo-Connor Shaw just isn't walking through that door right now in terms of mounting a comeback through the air. If the game starts off 14-3 or 14-0 etc then Mizzou can probably coast. But if its one of those where it goes 14-7 then 17-10 then 20-13 etc as the game goes on, regardless of which team has the lead, then its gonna be trouble against a team that plays hard for a full 60 minutes and is playing at home and can limit Mizzou's offensive possessions using its ground game.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 5:01 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Actually Cheese, the only major trolling on this page 6 is your bullshite in #2.
Not a troll dude, serious response in how teams fill past the first string. GA and FL are recruit export states and if the second string kids - that important factor of how to survive in the SEC - are usually pulled from a 250 mile radius so they are more resilient. With the Gators and Dawgs it was not just a player or two out of play for a game, while teams with less depth (Mizzou, Kentucky, Vanderbilt) can feel greater pain with the loss of just a player or two.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 5:10 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Actually Cheese, the only major trolling on this page 6 is your bullshite in #2.
But I thought that you though that I was trolling.
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