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re: Let's say the Leo Lewis stuff is thrown out by the NCAA
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:48 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:48 pm to Ancient Astronaut
You're in for a rude awakening. Your entire fanbase has been lied to for 2 years by the same people that are filling you full of shite right now. I can not imagine being ignorant enough to continue believing the people who had lied to me. But hey, do you. Your team is absolutely fricked and MSU and Leo Lewis and Kobe Jones are not getting into any trouble. Period. The sooner you get that through your head the easier it will be for you. Or you can continue holding on to this idiotic fantasy. Whatever floats your boat.
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:51 pm to Vecchio Cane
Can we all stop for a second and go back to the bacon discussion?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:52 pm to BamaNatureBoy
The Leo Lewis stuff and Austin Golson's hunting is the entire second NOA. The Leo Lewis stuff, if proven, means OM gets the modern day death penalty meaning LOIC. Without it, it doesn't. We could speculate as to what the penalty would be without the LOIC penalty, but Leo withdrawing his testimony is a big deal, not a closet that you need to come out of. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 12:56 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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Can we all stop for a second and go back to the bacon discussion?
Cholesterol and other essential fatty acids are vital to energy production.
Eat more bacon and cut out carbs and just do more to burn it off
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:05 pm to Whereisomaha
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but Leo withdrawing his testimony is a big deal,
Do Ole Miss fans really think that this is going to happen? Do you all really think that LL is going to recant his statements and that will make the NCAA drop all that portion of the NOI?
There is no proof that he outright lied about getting free stuff. Don't tell me that because the store has no records of the transaction that proves he lied. Of course the store doesn't keep records of when they are cheating their arse off and giving recruits free shite. No Security tags, goodness, that doesn't prove anything either, security tags could be a number of things, like the item tag, price tag and etc. So what, he got confused on what type of tags were on the free shite he was giving by the cheating arse booster store.
The RR case will get dismissed and the cheating arse booster and the ambulance chasing sleaze bag Ole Miss attorney will look like fools, even more so than now.
Hammer is gonna drop, Ole Miss fricked.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:11 pm to Whereisomaha
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The Leo Lewis stuff, if proven,
You mean selective Leo Lewis stuff?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:24 pm to Whereisomaha
quote:Rationally speaking, do you think your Institution had control of OleMiss Athletics?
The Leo Lewis stuff and Austin Golson's hunting is the entire second NOA. The Leo Lewis stuff, if proven, means OM gets the modern day death penalty meaning LOIC. Without it, it doesn't. We could speculate as to what the penalty would be without the LOIC penalty, but Leo withdrawing his testimony is a big deal, not a closet that you need to come out of. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course
Seriously, OM has multiple sports, multiple coaches, multiple AD's spanning years implicated. This stuff is/was wide spread. And the Institution acknowledged that violations occurred while under NCAA investigation.
The Institution wasn't in control of a damn thing, and they failed to monitor their own Athletic Department employees and over half a dozen staffers coaching football.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:30 pm to spacewrangler
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Do Ole Miss fans really think that this is going to happen?
ehhh some do. I for one believe its a little too good to be true. I'd put my confidence at 65% that Leo's stuff stays as is in the discussion. It is a bad look if the NCAA uses testimony from a rival player that later proven false in a court of law. Its just fun to theorize about.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:30 pm to Vecchio Cane
this is why i'm gonna live to be 1000. My diet consists of bacon grease, bacon, fried chicken, deep fried burgers, and sausage.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:30 pm to Vecchio Cane
this is why i'm gonna live to be 1000. My diet consists of bacon grease, bacon, fried chicken, deep fried burgers, and sausage.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:37 pm to Whereisomaha
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It is a bad look if the NCAA uses testimony from a rival player that later proven false in a court of law. Its just fun to theorize about.
Such a bad look that I don't think the NCAA would admit to being wrong. I bet they would insist that the testimonies were changed under threat of lawsuit and intimidation.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:41 pm to RT1941
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Seriously, OM has multiple sports, multiple coaches, multiple AD's spanning years implicated. This stuff is/was wide spread. And the Institution acknowledged that violations occurred while under NCAA investigation.
So what do you do to fix lack of institutional control? You get rid of anyone who had control.
When it comes to track, basketball and academic fraud, there isn't a single coach, athletic director, or chancellor associated with the those charges outside of Bjork who hired the womens coach and fired him a few months later. The rest are gone.
There are three coaches mentioned in all allegations that are under the current football coach. Two are gone and one is tied to an FCA director being called a booster.
All you are doing is reading headlines and making vast general claims without knowing the details. If OM was such a big cheater, why does it have less talent on its roster than the rest of the west outside of Arky and State? Why cant it get a LB or RB? Do you consider giving players rides and a place to stay this huge dishonor to college football? If not, what is it that OM did is such a disservice and makes the clean sport of college football so unfair? Or are you once again just speaking in general terms without any specific details?
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:50 pm to Vecchio Cane
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Such a bad look that I don't think the NCAA would admit to being wrong. I bet they would insist that the testimonies were changed under threat of lawsuit and intimidation
Im not reading this right I don't think, but if an actual justice court says you are wrong, you are wrong by the actual law. That takes precedent over the ncaa which is why the ncaa hands PSU and Baylor like cases to actual justice courts.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:51 pm to Cdawg
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You mean selective Leo Lewis stuff?
I don't know what that means
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:55 pm to Whereisomaha
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Leo withdrawing his testimony is a big deal
why would he? if it's true, which the only ones who think it isn't are connected to Ole Miss, then he just repeats it in testimony. You know, the burden in this case is on the plaintiff, not the defendant. It's not really a winning case for RR. It's just tough to prove the things he's alleged are wrong.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:59 pm to Whereisomaha
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if an actual justice court says you are wrong, you are wrong by the actual law
Giving kids free swag isn't against the law. Rape and molestation aren't NCAA infractions.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:04 pm to bamasgot13
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It's just tough to prove the things he's alleged are wrong.
If you believe that, you either haven't actually read anything but t/rant or are just trolling.
The only thing concerning Leo that Ole Miss is guilty of is free rides and free meals. The other shite can be disproven. But I know, facts that disprove his stories are just "minor details", such as:
1. His claim of being the first person in history is be in two places at once.
2. His claim of seeing things that do not and never have existed.
3. His claim of people that don't exist.
4. His claim of how he got paid that kept changing over and over and over and over.
5. The fact that his timelines do NOT add up at all.
6. His claim of all of that merchandise that suddenly vanished completely and nobody ever saw it and he couldn't explain where it went.
7. His mom even calling him a liar about the supposed money he received from more than one SEC school (seriously - dude's mom called him out on that....lol)
8. His claim of meeting boosters, in which the boosters can verify they weren't even in Oxford when he claimed.
Yeah, facts = just minor details. Ole Miss fricked, death penalty, yada yada yada.......
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:05 pm to Pickle_Weasel
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If you believe that, you either haven't actually read anything but t/rant
First, prove that those are his claims.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:07 pm to Vecchio Cane
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First, prove that those are his claims.
Are you arguing that he's not SA#39?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:09 pm to bamasgot13
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It's just tough to prove the things he's alleged are wrong.
It's easy to prove that they don't use security tags.
It's easy to prove that they didn't have an employee by the name of Emily.
It's easy to prove that no gift cards were used on the dates and for the amounts specified by Leo Lewis during his testimony.
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which the only ones who think it isn't are connected to Ole Miss
Well obviously that's because the people that can disprove Leo's claim are connected to Ole MIss.
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