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re: Let’s get something straight Bama fans

Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:51 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:51 am to
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Ridiculing Bama for their win at all costs terrible judgment by letting Miller stay a part of your team

Is NOT making fun of a young woman’s death, which was directly a result of Millers poor judgement


Of course it is, because Miller did nothing wrong.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:52 am to
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For the record, I’m sure our fans would be acting the same way if it were us because all any of us really want to do is win and we can explain away anything when we really try.



Do you mean like wait for those pesky little things like Facts? Something that takes the hearsay out of the truth?

My question to you is why is the rant in a rush to judgment? Why is waiting for the facts and both sides' defenses such a non-option? You simply want someone punished BEFORE all the facts are uncovered.

Petulance and senseless repetition are the traits of a child. And Emotionally on the rant, we are still wetting the bed over here.

Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:30 am to
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TheCheshireHog


Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:47 am to
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Ridiculing Bama for their win at all costs terrible judgment by letting Miller stay a part of your team


No, it's just a rush to judgment. Folks are in a hurry because of the immediate success of this Tide team.



Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6776 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:48 am to
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I mean let’s not be dumb about this. If the guy didn’t check the text, as has become the canned Bama message board defense, then the Bama athletic department and Miller’s own lawyer would be shouting this from the mountain top every single day because it would immediately exonerate him. The fact that no one will even address it or answer questions about it tells you he checked it. Most likely, he’s flipped on his boys and he’s going to get a pass on that one. It’s not that hard to connect the dots.


I don’t know why so many of our fans are fixated on this issue. It’s part of the story, sure, but not the entire story. Absolutely, Miller’s attorney should use this however they may, but common sense tells me Miller likely saw that text before the gun was retrieved in his car (perhaps after he parked, but maybe not). But even if we all accepted that as fact, I still don’t think this is as bad for Miller as his put-him-in-jail lemmings (who appear to be hopelessly brainwashed) say it is, for the following reasons:

(1) Miller was already enroute to the ultimate scene of the crime when the text was sent. That really weakens any claim that he went there with the intent to partake in anything nefarious. He headed that direction to pick up his (dumbass) friend. (2) The other car wasn’t there when he arrived. Depending on when exactly the gun was retrieved (before or after the other car creeped in behind him with the lights off) he could reasonably assume it was either safe to give back to his (dumbass) friend OR it would be used for self defense. He had absolutely no way of understanding what was going on in that moment.

The vocal anti-Bama/Miller camp which seems to suggest this is an open-and-shut deal has been clearly and transparently disingenuous and willfully ignorant during this entire story. Their application of hindsight to a complicated chain of events lacks any semblance to logic, fairness, or living in reality. I also think many of our fans, while correct that the virtue-signaling anti-Bama camp really doesn’t give a shite about the truth, could be much better itself at common sense here. In hindsight, the two other Bama players who were around the scene when this escalated should have probably been suspended pending an internal investigation and reinstated when more facts became clear. That may or may not have resulted in some missed games, but UA should have done something to signal they were taking this seriously. That said, I wonder if any of UA’s counsel would have advised against such an action as it could be construed as an admission of guilt in the court of public opinion or even the basis for future civil litigation.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Absolutely, Miller’s attorney should use this however they may, but common sense tells me Miller likely saw that text before the gun was retrieved in his car (perhaps after he parked, but maybe not). But even if we all accepted that as fact, I still don’t think this is as bad for Miller as his put-him-in-jail lemmings (who appear to be hopelessly brainwashed)
it's relevant because we know that the police and the da had access to millers phone, I believe I saw somewhere that he surrendered it to them to have the contents dumped. That would allow them to see if he did in fact view the text before arriving and if so exactly when that happened relative to the other events. But I do get your point. It's a long way from going to get your friend who left his stuff in your car, which includes his what I assume is a legally owned gun because I didn't see any illegal possession charges for miles, even if he know the gun was there, to assuming somehow that your friend was going to give his gun to his other crazy friend who then goes and gets in a shootout. There is no intent even if Miller did read the text and knew the gun was there. As was stated before, the fact that he just sat there in his car right in front of where the shootout happened with another unnamed (presumably female) passenger implied he didn't know it was going to happen. If he knew it was going down he would have driven off before the shooting instead of nearly getting shot himself. Instead he was waiting there for miles who it seems had moved over the other side of the street possibly to retrieve his girlfriend who was participating somehow in the girl fight that was going on in the alley.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 12:51 pm
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