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re: Les Miles Will Not Win Another SEC Championship At LSU
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:44 pm to wildrebeltime
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:44 pm to wildrebeltime
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Miles hasn't done anything Saban didn't do.
Miles has won all of his bowl games and has an undefeated OOC record at LSU. He also isn't perceived as a complete dick by the LSU fan base and the rest of the nation.
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Ole Miss went into your house, Houston nutt went in to Les MIles house 2 years in a row with lesser teams and whupped him, sir.
I wouldn't call a 3OT game an arse whipping. Arkansas also had one of the best backfields ever assembled in college football IMO. I also feel like not having an experienced QB and 2 DCs fricked over Miles the whole season last year. You could also attribute the shitty season to the coaching change transition.
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wildrebeltime
You are a hack.
This post was edited on 5/24/09 at 6:45 pm
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Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:45 pm to ericberryistheman
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In any event, Chavis may begin the slide. Be careful. I always liked Chavis but the lack of recruiting on his part is inexcusable and the scheme drove me nuts. Enjoy the Mustang package. I think LSU fans will quickly tire of holding on 1st and 2nd down only to give up third and long. Time will tell.
Does he have the same staff at LSU that he had at TN? B/c I believe this staff at LSU puts the staff at TN to shame, and the one at TN wasn't too shabby. Y'all bitch too much about Chavis and his defenses at TN.
And his recruiting will improve drastically now that he doesn't have to fly around the country to recruit some talent for his D that he can find right in his back yard.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:51 pm to Barry Badrinath
Time will tell. He had more NFL players than any other team in the SEC this decade and zero championships.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:51 pm to wildrebeltime
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His defenses were never that good and that's b/c the state of arkansas does not produce good defensive highschool players compared to most other programs in the SEC.
Maybe he should learn to recruit then out of state then.
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Nutt has been the best overacheiver the best doing more with less relative to the recruiting base plus tradition plus resources divided by wins that this conference has ever had. I think he's proababaly just as good as Bear Bryant was.
Nutt has done nothing
This post was edited on 5/24/09 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:52 pm to wildrebeltime
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Nutt has been the best overacheiver the best doing more with less relative to the recruiting base plus tradition plus resources divided by wins that this conference has ever had. I think he's proababaly just as good as Bear Bryant was.
Are you seriously comparing Nutt to Bear Bryant?
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:54 pm to LSURulzSEC
Houston Nutt is no Bear Bryant! 
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:55 pm to ericberryistheman
And, all the no-championships were his fault? The TN offense hasn't been impressive since Tee Martin left either.
And when you played for the championship in '07, you held one of the highest scoring offenses in the country to like 21 points. Even if we had a backup QB, that offense was lethal. Your QB threw a pick-6 that put that game away. Defense did its part.
And when you played for the championship in '07, you held one of the highest scoring offenses in the country to like 21 points. Even if we had a backup QB, that offense was lethal. Your QB threw a pick-6 that put that game away. Defense did its part.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:58 pm to ericberryistheman
It seems to me that the best recruiters in the SEC are Miles, Meyer, and Saban.
The three best coaches are Meyer, Saban, and Bobby Johnson. IMO. I am sure not everyone agrees with Johnson. However, a winning season and a bowl win at Vandy is something I am not sure anyone thought would happen in the next 25 years.
That leaves Meyer and Saban as the best when you account for both aspects of their primary roles. Miles and Richt are a distance behind those two and Houston Nut is not in that group.
The three best coaches are Meyer, Saban, and Bobby Johnson. IMO. I am sure not everyone agrees with Johnson. However, a winning season and a bowl win at Vandy is something I am not sure anyone thought would happen in the next 25 years.
That leaves Meyer and Saban as the best when you account for both aspects of their primary roles. Miles and Richt are a distance behind those two and Houston Nut is not in that group.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:58 pm to Duke
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Les Miles Will Not Win Another SEC Championship At LSU
:lol: 
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:02 pm to lsutiger2486
lsutiger, bowl games are pretty much like exhibition games. the only one that really matters is the NC. otherwise, it's a deal where everyone has been off for a month, timing and rythem is off, some guys get out of shape, alot of times you are depending on guys that don't give a shite b/c they are wanting to avoid injury so they can get drafted and younger players feed off that, etc.
Miles has done a decent job until 08. But, with all that great recruiting how in the world could he manage to go 3-5? Let Mississippi who won 2 conference games the last 2 years come into your house and blow you out? are you kidding me? get down by 30 to a Sunbelt team at home? are you kidding? LOSE to a 4-7 Arkansas who'd given up 440 yards the week prior to the conference worst offense?!?!
Inexcusable brother. He better shape up down there. Florida is pretty much a built in loss for you every year. Georiga half the time. Bama is a built in loss for you now as well as Ole Miss as long as those coaches are there. But logically there is no excuse for a talent rich state like LSU is in to be less than 5-3 in the conference ever.
Miles has done a decent job until 08. But, with all that great recruiting how in the world could he manage to go 3-5? Let Mississippi who won 2 conference games the last 2 years come into your house and blow you out? are you kidding me? get down by 30 to a Sunbelt team at home? are you kidding? LOSE to a 4-7 Arkansas who'd given up 440 yards the week prior to the conference worst offense?!?!
Inexcusable brother. He better shape up down there. Florida is pretty much a built in loss for you every year. Georiga half the time. Bama is a built in loss for you now as well as Ole Miss as long as those coaches are there. But logically there is no excuse for a talent rich state like LSU is in to be less than 5-3 in the conference ever.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:06 pm to windriver
Take a closer look at the defensive effort in the 2001 and 2004 CG. Two fourth quarter TDs from Mauck in '01 and almost 400 yards passing from Campbell in '04.
I do like John Chavis as a person. I hope that LSU dominates the West for years to come. I really don't care for the other teams in the West.
I am simply saying that LSU today reminds me of UT in 2001-2003. I think Meyer and Saban are both ahead of Miles.
I do like John Chavis as a person. I hope that LSU dominates the West for years to come. I really don't care for the other teams in the West.
I am simply saying that LSU today reminds me of UT in 2001-2003. I think Meyer and Saban are both ahead of Miles.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:14 pm to ericberryistheman
The Mauck game was great for LSU, but the gameplan against Davey was working at the time. Had DAvey not gotten hurt, i don't think we win that game.
And Saban lost a game just like that in Tiger Stadium to none other than Bama in one of the worst beatdowns I have witnessed in that stadium. We couldn't stop a draw play right before half that they ran over and over and over again. These things happen sometimes. AU in '04 was dominant, and I'm glad LSU played them early in the year b/c they were dominating at the end of the year. And TN still made the SECCG that year. You have had a good year if you make that game.
I think the staff Miles assembled is going to suprise folks this year. If not, then Miles will be on the hot seat. Simple as that.
I think Meyer definitely is ahead of Miles, and Saban maybe too. But if Miles takes LSU to the title game this year, he is doing a fine job.
And Saban lost a game just like that in Tiger Stadium to none other than Bama in one of the worst beatdowns I have witnessed in that stadium. We couldn't stop a draw play right before half that they ran over and over and over again. These things happen sometimes. AU in '04 was dominant, and I'm glad LSU played them early in the year b/c they were dominating at the end of the year. And TN still made the SECCG that year. You have had a good year if you make that game.
I think the staff Miles assembled is going to suprise folks this year. If not, then Miles will be on the hot seat. Simple as that.
I think Meyer definitely is ahead of Miles, and Saban maybe too. But if Miles takes LSU to the title game this year, he is doing a fine job.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:15 pm to ericberryistheman
ericberry, I was listening to a local arkansas sports talk show the other day and they were talking about how Chavis' defenses typically was not good tacklers, can you shed light on that?
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:15 pm to wildrebeltime
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lsutiger, bowl games are pretty much like exhibition games. the only one that really matters is the NC
Dumb-arse.
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Miles has done a decent job until 08.
Paint chip-eater. 11-2,11-2,12-2 National Champs.
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But, with all that great recruiting how in the world could he manage to go 3-5?
D-coaching collapse and horrible QB. It really IS that simple. Dumb-arse-paint-chip eating hack.
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Florida is pretty much a built in loss for you every year.
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Bama is a built in loss for you now as well as Ole Miss as long as those coaches are there
Don't really follow sports much do ya, you dumb-arse, paint chip eating hack that ain't sniffed a championship since Buddy Ebsen was a chick magnet. Seriously, 1963 ? And you are on the CHAMPS board talkin' smack?
We really do have a new board idiot.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:16 pm to wildrebeltime
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ericberry, I was listening to a local arkansas sports talk show the other day and they were talking about how Chavis' defenses typically was not good tacklers, can you shed light on that?
NFL disagrees, but please I would like to hear you shed light on this.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:24 pm to Barry Badrinath
There were some players who were much more interested in making the highlight reel than a solid tackle.
I think it goes back to the lack of onfield discipline that eroded the entire program.
Players at UT were not coached up. Fundamentals were not always good. I will say that Chavis did a good job with the LBs. The tackling issue seemed to be at its worst with the DBs. Most got by on athletic ability alone which is why UT has sent more players to the NFL in this decade than any other SEC team.
I think it goes back to the lack of onfield discipline that eroded the entire program.
Players at UT were not coached up. Fundamentals were not always good. I will say that Chavis did a good job with the LBs. The tackling issue seemed to be at its worst with the DBs. Most got by on athletic ability alone which is why UT has sent more players to the NFL in this decade than any other SEC team.
This post was edited on 5/24/09 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:28 pm to ericberryistheman
Chavis did a marvelous job with LBs while at TN, even when he had LBs that weren't NFL material.
Like I said. Different staff at LSU. Chavis did not coach DBs. We have one of the best DB coaches in the SEC on the staff, and a new DL coach that is pretty damn good.
Like I said. Different staff at LSU. Chavis did not coach DBs. We have one of the best DB coaches in the SEC on the staff, and a new DL coach that is pretty damn good.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:29 pm to wildrebeltime
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Florida is pretty much a built in loss for you every year. Georiga half the time. Bama is a built in loss for you now as well as Ole Miss as long as those coaches are there. But logically there is no excuse for a talent rich state like LSU is in to be less than 5-3 in the conference ever.
Just accept you are a hack. You act as if Saban has an undefeated record in the conference every year. You think UF is incapable of losing to LSU under Miles when it has occurred twice in 4 years. You act as if Miles has never beat Nutt. I mean come on stop speaking stupid.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:35 pm to lsutiger2486
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Just accept you are a hack.
He's already reaching Rexonian levels...
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:41 pm to lsutiger2486
lsutiger sorry man. it was certainly a little bit tounge and cheek but of course Miles earned the right to have a pathedic season.
Hey, he can recruit. He can win the big game. He has proved he can go all the way. You might always underacheive with a coach that won't look at game film and help with strategical planning like a Saban does, but he's still probabaly good enough to stay around a few more years. Don't want another Curley or Dinardo right? or is he the next Dinardo?
EricBerry, when you say they were more interested in making the highlight reel are you saying they went for the big hit instead of a sure tackle? if that's the case I like the philosphy.
Hey, he can recruit. He can win the big game. He has proved he can go all the way. You might always underacheive with a coach that won't look at game film and help with strategical planning like a Saban does, but he's still probabaly good enough to stay around a few more years. Don't want another Curley or Dinardo right? or is he the next Dinardo?
EricBerry, when you say they were more interested in making the highlight reel are you saying they went for the big hit instead of a sure tackle? if that's the case I like the philosphy.
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