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re: Les Miles Will Not Win Another SEC Championship At LSU
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:51 am to inelishaitrust
Posted on 5/24/09 at 7:51 am to inelishaitrust
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Les Miles won a National Championship at LSU /discussion.
With two losses.
Outside of Ohio St., and you can't say Kansas cause their schedule was so weak they could not climb any higher than 8th in the final BCS poll and 7th in the AP, that could have won the NC with less than 2 losses that year if they played Ohio State in the NCG?
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Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:19 am to LSURulzSEC
Not sure if anyone heard but when Francios was drafted the analysts were talking about how he had poor technique. Said that if someone taught him technique he could be alot better. Also, Crowton has been alot of places but he's never had much success. When he was with the bears they were last 2 years in the Central, the year after he left they were 13-3. If you go to youtube and type in "les Miles" there is a clip of him telling the press that studying film is liking reading a book, and he doesn't like reading books. They also do not appear as well conditioned as Ole Miss this year or Arkansas in past years. It's amazing he managed to lose to an Arkansas team in 08 when you consider ark had 1 guy drafted and they had 6 guys drafted. Overwhelming evidence suggests Miles will underacheive at LSU.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:42 am to Duke
This thread has had a surprisingly long run for its' status as a flamer. If it were not for last season, I don't think it would have much merit. The 2009 season will tell if it does. KC.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:46 am to Triple6Rebel
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KC
How have you been?
Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:48 am to Duke
This thread has had a surprisingly long run for its' status as a flamer. If it were not for last season, I don't think it would have much merit. The 2009 season will tell if it does. KC.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:50 am to inelishaitrust
WHEN HAS O'L PISS WON ANYTHING IN THE LAST TeN YRS? 
Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:52 am to m2pro
I am sick of people not giving miles credit for his first 3 years @ lsu. He had 3 years in a row of only losing 2 games. Sabah has yet to do that 2 years he is undefeated in out of conference games. He has been to 2 seccg in 4 years. He has a nc and he consistently turns in great recruiting years the past one being his best. He also calls some of the busiest calls the flipp to Colt David being one of the best I've ever seen. All this and people still don't give him any credit. It's amazing. I am just glad he doesn't read these stupid comments by people that say they are fans of LSU!!!
Posted on 5/24/09 at 8:59 am to CalLSU
Well you got 6 pages,destined for at least 10..... 
Posted on 5/24/09 at 9:07 am to TT9
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Well you got 6 pages,destined for at least 10.....
i was just thinking something along those lines. people are starved to get pumped about football and it's STILL forever away from now.
so people are jumping into this thread in droves.
This post was edited on 5/24/09 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/24/09 at 9:08 am to m2pro
this is true.....
Posted on 5/24/09 at 10:44 am to wildrebeltime
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Not sure if anyone heard but when Francios was drafted the analysts were talking about how he had poor technique. Said that if someone taught him technique he could be alot better.
Yeah RJF is the first college player in history going to pros that needed improvement in his technique...
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Also, Crowton has been alot of places but he's never had much success. When he was with the bears they were last 2 years in the Central, the year after he left they were 13-3.
As a head coach overall no, his overall win/loss record is not great, as OC yes...and all coaches have ups and downs in their careers...
Crowten as an OC/Head Coach
At Snow (Utah) Junior College as OC from 84-86 lead Snow to the National Junior College Athletic Association national championship in 1985.
With La. Tech from 96-98 Tech was playing as an Independent at the time while the OC/Head Coach compiled a 21-13 record...1997 offensive ranked 3rd in passing and overall and they finished 9-2 that year and they had wins over Miss. State, Cal, and Bama that year, their 2 losses were to Arkansas and Auburn...1998 ranked 1st in passing and 2nd overall...
His first year with the Bears they were 3rd in the league in passing and broke the franchise record with over 4,000 yds while using 3 different QB's (Matthews, McNown, and Miller)
While he didn't have a lot of success at BYU he did win the MWC once and they lead the nation in total offense and scoring that year...
At Oregon in '05 the team finish 2nd all time in school history on offense for passing and scoring and 8th in the nation, 12th in scoring and 18th overall and in '06 they finished 9th in overall offense and first in the PAC in total offense including rushing...
At LSU in '07 10 offensive records were broken points in a season (541), points per game (38.6), touchdowns scored (64), rushing TDs (35), passes attempted (442), passes completed (256), total yards (6,152), total plays (1,054) and first downs (316). LSU also scored at least 40 points a school-record seven times in 2007 as well as finishing 12th nationally in scoring as well as rushing...as well as averaging over 30 pts per game in the 2 yrs he's been at LSU...
Never having much success huh?
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If you go to youtube and type in "les Miles" there is a clip of him telling the press that studying film is liking reading a book, and he doesn't like reading books.
Wow...a 14 sec. clip of him joking around at a press conference...if you really think Miles doesn't put in tons of film watching you are foolish...
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They also do not appear as well conditioned as Ole Miss this year or Arkansas in past years. It's amazing he managed to lose to an Arkansas team in 08 when you consider ark had 1 guy drafted and they had 6 guys drafted.
Really...I guess Stanford was more well conditioned too than USC, how many players from each team were drafted that year from one of the greatest upsets in college football...
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Overwhelming evidence suggests Miles will underacheive at LSU.
If winning 2 Western Divisions titles, 1 SEC title and participated in 2 SEC title games, 1 National Championship, and 4-0 in Bowl games is overwhelming evidence he will underachieve then please tell me you are not in law enforcement cause you will be putting a lot of innocent people away...
Posted on 5/24/09 at 10:55 am to LSURulzSEC
LsuRulz, you remember a couple years ago against Auburn I believe when Les calls for that diving pass completion to win the game with 1 second left when all they needed was a field goal? you realize that if that ball is not caught then time runs out and the game is over? That is one particular play that sticks out in my mind but I'm sure there are others. What about this year after the Bama loss? played like hell against TRoy and the only reason you really won was b/c you had about 20 more scholarship players and wore them down. Plus he keeps losing to Colonel Dale with Dale at lesser talented programs.
Face it, you might be stuck with him for a while but he probabaly won't win another SEC-W with Saban and Nutt around and alot of the defensive players are under acheiving if you read what the NFL draft analysis is saying about them.
Face it, you might be stuck with him for a while but he probabaly won't win another SEC-W with Saban and Nutt around and alot of the defensive players are under acheiving if you read what the NFL draft analysis is saying about them.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 10:58 am to wildrebeltime
if les miles just won because of talent... does that really matter considering we still are bringing in as good or better talent than before?
Posted on 5/24/09 at 11:10 am to wildrebeltime
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LsuRulz, you remember a couple years ago against Auburn I believe when Les calls for that diving pass completion to win the game with 1 second left when all they needed was a field goal? you realize that if that ball is not caught then time runs out and the game is over? That is one particular play that sticks out in my mind but I'm sure there are others.
I remember that as well as a lot of great coaches, including growing up, the Bear and Osborne just to mention a couple, throughout my years of watching college football that called questionable plays and rolled the dice and won some and lost some so what?
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What about this year after the Bama loss? played like hell against TRoy and the only reason you really won was b/c you had about 20 more scholarship players and wore them down.
Troy in D1 also, they have the same amount of scholly players as LSU...but as least we won, unlike recently Bama against ULM...
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Face it, you might be stuck with him for a while but he probabaly won't win another SEC-W with Saban and Nutt around
We have already won the SEC-W as well as the NC with them around, no reason why LSU can't do it again...
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and alot of the defensive players are under acheiving if you read what the NFL draft analysis is saying about them.
Yeah? And USC has a lot of offensive players underachieving for that matter every team as players that get drafted that underachieve...
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Plus he keeps losing to Colonel Dale with Dale at lesser talented programs.
Why don't you go to the USC board and tell them this also since Petey has the same amount of BCS titles as Miles and keeps losing to lesser programs like Oregon State and Stanford...
For someone that roots for a team that has never won a NC in any sport you sure are worried about LSU a lot...you ough to worry more about your own team...
Posted on 5/24/09 at 11:16 am to LSURulzSEC
If Miles wins 9+ games this year, people really need to shut the frick up. IMO LOL ES FU GFY
Posted on 5/24/09 at 11:28 am to LSURulzSEC
lsurulz, when a coach calls a play that has a high probability of failing and losing the game, when he could go for a 30 yard field goal which is a much higher percentage play to win the game, then says afterwards he was not fully aware of the amount of time left that's the sign of a guy completely in over his head. Once that type of stuff starts going against you, and it will if it hasn't already, players start to lose confidence in the coach. Also, I don't think there is any good excuse for not having a feasible back-up to Perrilouix (sp) didn't the guy have character issues in highschool? So Les wanted to build his entire team around a guy with Character issues and had no backup? LSU is a prideful enough program it should never be in that posistion. What about having as poorous of a defense as you had in 08? Pelini leaves so he tried coordinator by committee? Miles just completely threw away the 2008 season and he had a ton of talent. could you imagine Houston Nutt or Nick Saban coaching that program in 08? Probably 11-2 at worst.
These are just thing I have noticed as an outsider b/c I don't pay real close attention to LSU, but, you can believe this circus is one I'll start paying more attention too.
These are just thing I have noticed as an outsider b/c I don't pay real close attention to LSU, but, you can believe this circus is one I'll start paying more attention too.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 11:40 am to wildrebeltime
Wildrebeltime...
You're right - you don't pay enough attention to LSU and I'm surprised that no one has corrected you, yet.
1 - LSU would have kicked a 40 yard FG (NOT 30 yards).
2 - The ball was snapped with 9 Seconds left (NOT 1 Second).
3 - The ball was caught with 4 Seconds left and the clock ran down to :01 seconds. Had the ball not been caught, time would have remained for a FG or LSU could have asked for a review to have a couple of seconds that ran off to be added.
LSU - Auburn 2007
You really should not speak too much when it comes to the operations of a programs that has accomplished more in 5 or 6 years than Miss has it its history.
You're right - you don't pay enough attention to LSU and I'm surprised that no one has corrected you, yet.
1 - LSU would have kicked a 40 yard FG (NOT 30 yards).
2 - The ball was snapped with 9 Seconds left (NOT 1 Second).
3 - The ball was caught with 4 Seconds left and the clock ran down to :01 seconds. Had the ball not been caught, time would have remained for a FG or LSU could have asked for a review to have a couple of seconds that ran off to be added.
LSU - Auburn 2007
You really should not speak too much when it comes to the operations of a programs that has accomplished more in 5 or 6 years than Miss has it its history.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 11:46 am to wildrebeltime
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Face it, you might be stuck with him for a while but he probabaly won't win another SEC-W with Saban and Nutt around and alot of the defensive players are under acheiving if you read what the NFL draft analysis is saying about them.
Stuck with him? Is that a joke? I sure hope Miles stays. Nutt will burn through the rest of Bebe's talent by 2011. 47-43 against SEC teams -4 games over .500
Posted on 5/24/09 at 12:01 pm to Duke
I say you should move to Alabama and badmouth Saban.
Posted on 5/24/09 at 12:02 pm to wildrebeltime
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when a coach calls a play that has a high probability of failing and losing the game, when he could go for a 30 yard field goal which is a much higher percentage play to win the game, then says afterwards he was not fully aware of the amount of time left that's the sign of a guy completely in over his head.
True Bengal has already addressed this with you so I will not waste my time...
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Also, I don't think there is any good excuse for not having a feasible back-up to Perrilouix (sp) didn't the guy have character issues in highschool?
There are too many "feasible" QB's as true Froshmen, they are ususally redshirted and learning the system or thrown on to the field like Peyton, Leak, McCoy just to name a few right off the top of my head and learn on the fly...and as far as RP his "character" issues didn't seem to stop Saban from trying to recruit him to LSU when he was here...
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What about having as poorous of a defense as you had in 08? Pelini leaves so he tried coordinator by committee?
You never learn how anything will be until you try to see if it will work...there are moves and/or plays that coaches make that if they work they are praised, if they fail, then they are condemned...but unless you try you will never know if something works or not...stop acting like you knew for a fact that it would not have worked...hindsight is a great thing...
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These are just thing I have noticed as an outsider b/c I don't pay real close attention to LSU, but, you can believe this circus is one I'll start paying more attention too.
Yes please pay more attention cause damn near everything you have brought up has been wrong...
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