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re: Least deserving Heisman winner in the past 10 years.

Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:12 pm to
I see back to back for Ingram...
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:14 pm to
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TTsTowel


So you can't come up with anything else. Gotcha.

All I asked was show were Bo had more yards from scrimmage, or more yards per touch from scrimmage than Ingram did in their Heisman years. That shouldn't be too difficult to find, considering Bo is the best all everything from forever. After all, the Heisman is for best overall player, not just RB or just WR or just QB. And if Bo was all that, his stats should overshadow Ingram by a mile. Right?
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:15 pm to
Ingram will not have 1000 yards rushing this year. The soph. will take away a ton of carries from Ingram. Last year is his only heisman year.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:16 pm to
If the Heisman was all about stats, Toby would have won it this year.
Hell, Case Keenam mighta even won it before Mark Ingram.
Posted by BamaFan89
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:16 pm to
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Ingram sure as Hell wasn't even the best running back in college football this year alone. Toby G. should have won the Heisman, hands down


Toby was a great runner but are you suggesting that his runs against Pac-10 defenses are better than Ingram's against SEC defenses ?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:16 pm to
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If the Heisman was all about stats, Toby would have won it this year.


Ingram had more overall yards than Toby. Try again.
Posted by BamaFan89
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:16 pm to
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Ingram will not have 1000 yards rushing this year.


Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:17 pm to
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Ingram will not have 1000 yards rushing this year.
i lol'd....
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:17 pm to
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Toby was a great runner but are you suggesting that his runs against Pac-10 defenses are better than Ingram's against SEC defenses ?


Considering he didn't have anyone to come in a wear down a defense like Ingram had in Richardson, yes. And you gotta look at this too, they loaded the box against Toby every play. And he still dominated. That guy was in beast-mode all year.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:18 pm to
Well there's Bear Bryant, Frank Thomas, Wallace Wade, Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Kenny Stabler, Shaun Alexander, Lee Roy Jordan, John Hannah, Johnny Mack Brown, Gene Stallings, Cornelius Bennett, Derrick Thomas, George Teague, Johnny Musso, Don Hudson, etc.

Of the ones I have listed, I think Thomas, Bryant, Wade, Namath, Stabler, Starr, and Hudson are the most influential. Three of those players were Super Bowl MVPs and the other invented the position we know of today as wide receiver.
This post was edited on 6/29/10 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:18 pm to
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Considering he didn't have anyone to come in a wear down a defense like Ingram had in Richardson, yes


So Ingram got more yds than Bo, by resting more and playing less. Gotcha

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And you gotta look at this too, they loaded the box against Toby every play. And he still dominated


Yeah, this didn't happen against Bama.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:19 pm to
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So Ingram got more yds than Bo, by resting more and playing less. Gotcha


Bo wasn;t in tmy argument.

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Yeah, this didn't happen against Bama


No, not as much as Stanford.
Posted by BamaFan89
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:20 pm to
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And you gotta look at this too, they loaded the box against Toby every play


They've NEVER done this against Bama
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:20 pm to
Richardson will split time with Ingram. Less yardage and a lesser year for Ingram because of his team mate's success.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:21 pm to
Because you watched all them games, and everyone talking about Luck as a Heisman contender forced everyone to stack the box. That's why he's considered such a hellatious QB.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:21 pm to
they did last year as well and he easily got to 1,000.....
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:28 pm to
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And you gotta look at this too, they loaded the box against Toby every play. And he still dominated. That guy was in beast-mode all year.



Child please, most of Toby Gerhart's TDs were goaline plays, that really isn't impressive...
Posted by rolltide1283
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:29 pm to
How is this thread still going? Everyone has their own opinions. Who cares who the better RB was last year? All I know is that we have 2 great backs and 1 that will be well known by the end of the season.

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:31 pm to
Well, Ingram does have more rushing yardage after his first two seasons than Bo Jackson did. Lets wait and see what the next two years could possibly bring Ingram. He's sitting at 2,386 career rushing yards. Bo finished with 4,303. However, he did have a injury plagued junior year in 1984. And his best season of 1,786 yards bests Ingram's 1,658. Bo's career YPC is higher at 6.4 to 5.9 as well.

While I'm not going to say Ingram will ever be better than Jackson, at least stats wise, who knows what Ingram could accomplish, or not, over the next two years (if he stays for four years).
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 8:32 pm to
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CapstoneGrad06


Thank you, that's a good comparison.
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