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re: Least deserving Heisman winner in the past 10 years.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:45 pm to rolltide1283
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:45 pm to rolltide1283
Troy Smith
Run DMC was jobbed.
Run DMC was jobbed.
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:45 pm to TTsTowel
what about Archie Griffin's 2nd Heisman. I know it's outside of 10 years BUT he had a grand total of 4....count it FOUR touchdowns ON THE SEASON TOTAL
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:45 pm to rolltide1283
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If it's based on stats, take a look at VYs numbers compared to Bush and take into account what kind of Ds they faced.
Please tell me this is a joke
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Ingram and Gerhart's numbers weren't that far apart and Ingram shared carries with a great back in the SEC.
And Gerhart was the entire offense for Stanford, defenses stacked the box all game against them.
Also, when did this become a team award?
This post was edited on 6/29/10 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:46 pm to Tigerbait337
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Ingram and Gerhart's numbers weren't that far apart and Ingram shared carries with a great back in the SEC.
And Gerhart was the entire offense for Stanford, defenses stacked the box all game against them.
sh*tty defenses stacked the box
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:48 pm to pygskyn
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sh*tty defenses stacked the box
ingram couldnt do shite vs the worst D in the sec last year.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:48 pm to pygskyn
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sh*tty defenses stacked the box
Stanford did face shittier defenses in the pac10 compared to Alabama, but Stanford had a shittier oline to aid in Gerharts rushing stats.
This post was edited on 6/29/10 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:49 pm to Tigerbait337
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Please tell me this is a joke
Yes it is. I'm bored.
I do think VY was robbed but Bush had great stats and is not the least deserving.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:49 pm to Tigerbait337
Does it really matter? Ingram won the Heisman and he deserved it.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:50 pm to Tigerbait337
(Suh > Ingram) > (Gerhart > Ingram) imowiw
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:50 pm to Tigerbait337
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If it's based on stats, take a look at VYs numbers compared to Bush and take into account what kind of Ds they faced.
Please tell me this is a joke
why would this be a joke?
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Gerhart was the entire offense for Stanford,
Andrew Luck disagrees. LINK
that's a pretty nice stat line.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:51 pm to AHM21
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Does it really matter?
Well..it is the topic of discussion in this thread, so yes
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Ingram won the Heisman
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and he deserved it.
No, he didn't.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:52 pm to adammwilson
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why would this be a joke?
Because hes comparing stats of a QB to a RB?
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:52 pm to Tigerbait337
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Because hes comparing stats of a QB to a RB?
ok
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:53 pm to Tigerbait337
I personally think Woodson was highly deserving of the Heisman Trophy in 1997. He was an amazing player and led his team to a national championship from the defensive side of the football. Peyton Manning was a great player, don't get me wrong. Both of them have had brilliant careers in the NFL and will probably both end up in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:54 pm to adammwilson
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Andrew Luck disagrees. LINK
that's a pretty nice stat line.
So you're saying that Lucks stat line wasn't effected due to the fact that they had 7 people in the box at times to stop Gerhart?
He was the LOAD of that offense, and it all reflected on his ability.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:54 pm to Hawgeye
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Troy Smith
Run DMC was jobbed.
:kige:
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:55 pm to RollTide1987
Ingram by far. He posted above average RB stats, nothing fantastic. I think he'll be the best pro out of all the offensive candidates this last year though.
This post was edited on 6/29/10 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:55 pm to Tigerbait337
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Lucks stat line wasn't effected due to the fact that they had 7 people in the box at times to stop Gerhart?
no I'm not so stupid as to believe that Luck wasn't helped by Gerhart but I think both were helped by each other. Luck more than Gerhart obviously. You can't discount Luck though.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:55 pm to RollTide1987
whether or not ingram deserved it or not....toby definetly not better than him.
if any argument is made it would be TR=MI
Mark Ingram was the best back in America last year. The yards after contact in the SEC to me is the key stat.
if any argument is made it would be TR=MI
Mark Ingram was the best back in America last year. The yards after contact in the SEC to me is the key stat.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 4:55 pm to Tigerbait337
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Because hes comparing stats of a QB to a RB?
FWIW, I was joking about the comparison in stats. However, I do think Bush got it based off the hype and didn't deserve the award half as much as VY.
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