re: Kling and Dutton off sinking ship..

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You don’t see kids transfer from big time schools that have an elite arm unless your at a services academy

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or I guess unless your name is Chase Burns and your coach's name is Tony Vitello

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Wrong!! Skenes was developed at Air Force, Tommy Tanks was developed at N.C State and most of the impact guys on last years roster were PM recruits that where already developed. Like Crews and Morgan was already elite players and MLB players before JJ took over.

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How is this drivel allowed here?

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Skenes got better by coming to LSU.

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Not saying he didn’t get better. I would agree with that. But let’s not act like he wasn’t already a dominant pitcher and player his sophomore year. He was sitting 98-100mph on his fastball and was catching and pitching in same day. He was also a very good hitter at Air Force. He left Air Force because if he didn’t he would have been locked into service with Air Force. So he had to make a decision his sophomore to leave so he could go pro after 3 years. He could have spent 3 years at Air Force and still been a first round draft pick.

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Skenes was developed at Air Force

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Skenes time at Air Force was spent as a catcher, a pitcher, and a hitter. They needed him to do everything he could. His ability on the mound blossomed while he was at LSU cause all we needed him to do was pitch.

So JJ didn’t develop any freshmen he inherited or transfers he brought in but Vitello developed all of them. Makes a lot of sense

Amick was a 2 year player at Clemson and a 1st team all American last year but his development was all Vitello.

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Amick had 187 at bats in his 2 years at Clemson.

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Right. He only had 19 as a freshman and only hit .109. He wasn’t a highly touted recruit. Clemson developed him into an AA by his sophomore season

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1st year UT- 10-0, 2.39 ERA, 12.3 K’s per 9, 1.5 walks per 9.
2nd year UT- 7-6, 4.6 ERA, 12.1 K’s per 9, 3.0 walks per 9.

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So he regressed at Tennessee


The reality is both JJ and TV are excellent coaches. Why you spend all your time looking like an idiot trying to convince yourself JJ isn’t is a mystery.

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Not saying he didn’t get better. I would agree with that. But let’s not act like he wasn’t already a dominant pitcher and player his sophomore year. 

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Being a dominant player at Air Force is very different from being the best player in the country.

Forbes projects that Skenes' decision to transfer to LSU made him roughly $9 million as far as his MLB contract.

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He was sitting 98-100mph on his fastball

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This lie has already been debunked.

Why do you constantly lie?

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So you admit he regressed from a legit starter, thanks for agreeing lololololol

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I didn’t admit anything. He has been the same guy from the time he come to campus to this seasons with wake. He left because Vitello would not promise him anything.

I said once he got to a certain point he would fall off. So Vitello decided that he would be better fitted to end the game than come out in the 5 or 6th inning. So instead of starting the game and leaving in the 5th, he decided to bring him in the 3rd or 4th inning and he would finish the game. He was pitching just as much as he was as a starter. But instead of pitching the first 6, Vitello wanted to finish the last 6.

Burns is the reason we lost to Notre Dame in Supers, and the reason Wake Lost to ECU in the supers this year. Burns has always been dominant through the first 60-70 pitches or so. Then when he gets to around 75 or so pitches his stuff starts to fall off dramatically, and that played true with wake also this year.

Burns @ Wake
He didn’t pitch a game above 7 innings.
pitched 3 games less than 6 innings.
Most his runs would come around the 5-7 innings. His strengths are 5-6 innings and that it. He been like this since his freshmen year at UT. Also he gave up more home runs in Wakes baseball “real” baseball stadium than he did at Tennessee any year.

vs Notre Dame Super- 1 earned run prior to the 7th inning. Dominant. 3 earned runs in the 7th inning. Ended with 92 pitches with 6.2 innings pitched. Started to fall apart that game around 75 pitches.

Vs ECU- gave up 4 earned runs, all came in the 5th inning. Guess how many pitches he had?

Now knowing this, would you rather a very dominant Burns last 5 innings, or the first 5 innings? If you had a lead in the 3rd inning it was game over basicly. He was selfish and it cost him another trip to Omaha this year.

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Also he gave up more home runs in Wakes baseball “real” baseball stadium than he did at Tennessee any year.

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Pretty sure Wake's field is smaller than Tennessee.

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Pretty sure Wake's field is smaller than Tennessee.

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He also threw 30 more innings this year. His ERA was cut in half from last year and his WHIP went from 1.139 last year to 0.920 this year. He averaged over 17 Ks/9 innings this year, compared to 14.25 last year. Burns was good last year. He developed into a top 5-10 draft pick this year.