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re: Kirk Herbstreit: "Dan Mullen is a magician"; Georgia put on notice

Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:10 pm to
UGA will easily beat Florida imo. The stuff on the ground that drove their comeback against Alabama will not be attainable to same degree v. UGA’s defense.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:15 pm to
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(be assured, UGA's on notice)


The team needs to be. Florida will be the toughest game we face in the regular season. I suspect they are better than Clemson.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Non stop. Way more Georgia threads on mullen than smart.


Interesting. Out of curiosity, how many threads by Georgia fans are on the first 3 pages of the Rant today
that are about Mullen? Just give me a guess, and I will go back and count.

Must be lots, right?
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Fair or not, the general consensus seems to be that Kirby is a moron and/or terrible coach when his main sin has been the inability to beat Bama despite consistently finishing in the top 5/10, winning plenty of big games, and recruiting at an extremely high level.

Those same people seem to think Mullen is an amazing coach despite his teams almost never winning games against ranked opponents and him recruiting as good or worse than McElwain. He then gets credit for “doing more with less” without taking into account that recruiting to Florida should be easy and is a major part of being a good college football coach. Those people are dumb and Georgia fans will continue to call them out for their stupid takes.


You're over exaggerating the take. I think most neutral fans would agree Smart is a better recruiter. Dan is a better Gameday coach. Smart trumps Dan overall.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Remind me when Smart beat Saban?


This is silly. Remind me the last time Mullen beat Saban. And Gator fans keep telling us that Mullen is a savant and Kirby is a terrible coach.

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Didn’t Mullen also beat Kirby down last year?
Certainly did. And Kirby beat Mullen down the 3 years prior to that. So what is your point again?

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Oh..LSU has raped you both times Kirby faced them too. Shut up.

Was that some sort of moral victory for Florida, or something? I mean, didn't LSU beat Florida last season because the savant kept Pitts out of the game and one of your players threw a shoe?

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Dan is a better Gameday coach.

I'm not totally sure about this either way, honestly.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:42 pm to
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UGA will easily beat Florida imo. The stuff on the ground that drove their comeback against Alabama will not be attainable to same degree v. UGA’s defense.

I hope you are right, but I'm not sure about it. This game scares me as much as the Clemson game did. The main thing is unless something happens a lot of our injured players should be back. now if we can avoid any more....
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68476 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:44 pm to
Close enough
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 12:45 pm to
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Non stop.


I just went back 5 pages and there is exactly 1 thread by a Georgia poster about Dan Mullen. ONE. And it's this one.

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Non stop.


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Non stop


I'm not entirely sure you understand what non stop means.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:15 pm to
Small sample size but pretty much every neutral fan in the thread said Mullen. Which was my point.

Mullen or Kirby Gameday?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Non stop. Way more Georgia threads on mullen than smart.


No shite? It's almost like there are way more UGA fans on here than the 4 UF fans.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Small sample size but pretty much every neutral fan in the thread said Mullen. Which was my point.



I get it. And I am not saying Smart is a better game day coach. I honestly don't know.
I guess my thing is both have made some extremely questionable game day decisions/calls. But Mullen has been coaching far longer than Smart has, so I will give Smart a small pass until he proves they were a matter of inexperience.

That, and I am not going to let the Rant make my decision or any Rant poll. Shoot...most Florida and Auburn fans are going to pick Mullen and a lot of LSU and Georgia and MAYBE Tennessee fans would say Smart based off prejudices they have for the other team or even a prejudice they have for a particular poster who is a fan of the team. I also realize you said neutral, but I'm not sure there are very many of those, either.

I think Mullen probably fall somewhere between what Georgia fans think and Florida fans think. Shoot, even some Florida fans are now saying Dan is over hyped now after last years LSU game. I rend to think that is a bit of an overreaction, too, though.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:40 pm to
Mullen is a better play caller and developer but Smart is a better recruiter and is more disciplined overall. Each has faults. The notion UGA fans mock UF for losing to Bama or LSU is absolutely hilarious though…considering you have actually done worse than UF vs those two. Also Mullen walked into a down program and had to catch up. Last year he caught up. Kirby can’t outcoach Mullen on game day. He will beat Mullen because he can out talent Mullen, but it won’t be because he out maneuvered him on gameday. Mullen has enough talent to have no excuses vs Smart now. Just like Bama. Year four he can’t be still building up. Jacksonville will be interesting but if any Georgia fan is ignorant enough to think they will shut down Mullen with the amount of talent he has now is at best kidding themselves. Mullen has never in his career had more overall talent than he currently has. Ask Saban…he knows how to use it.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12521 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:43 pm to
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"Dan Mullen is a magician";


……. In between the 10 yard line stripes.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Mullen is a better play caller and developer but Smart is a better recruiter and is more disciplined overall.


Maybe it's true. I honestly don't know. Mullen has made a bunch of confusing decisions, as has Smart. but Smart is still relatively new.

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The notion UGA fans mock UF for losing to Bama or LSU is absolutely hilarious though…considering you have actually done worse than UF vs those two. Also Mullen walked into a down program and had to catch up.
Not necessarily. I mean this is year4 for Mullen, right? And Florida fans keep saying Mullen is a much better game day coach, so he should be doing better than Smart. Thing is...you can't separate a coach. You HAVE to look at the whole picture. There is no way to divide a coach up and say, "Mullen is great, he just can't recruit! If he could recruit he would win!" Well....maybe. maybe not. How is anybody going to prove it one way or the other?
I mean that is like Georgia fans claiming that Kirby out coached Saban in 2017 but a player missed his assignment. Certainly it isn't Kirby's fault a player had a brain freeze, right? But you can't say with certainty that we would have won the game anyway, even though it looked probable

I am not saying Kirby out coached Saban. I am saying nobody can say anything with certainty. All we have is the information we have and we can't rewrite history.

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Mullen has never in his career had more overall talent than he currently has. Ask Saban…he knows how to use it.
. Then since he is a better coach than Kirby, then he should have beaten Saban.

That's my whole point. Nobody can say would, should, could because all we have is what has actually happened.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:22 pm to
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Then since he is a better coach than Kirby, then he should have beaten Saban.



If this was racing...

Saban has a ferrari.

Mullen is trying to beat Saban with a Honda Civic.

Kirby is trying to beat Saban with another Ferrari.

That's the difference lol
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6354 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:30 pm to
Exactly.

Has there ever been a fan base, that thinks so highly of themselves?
And talks more collective shite than UGA fans?
All the while accomplishing virtually nothing for 41 years.

This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7211 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Is Kirk going to cry a bout how great Dan is?


What will Kirk have to do to let that sleeping dog lie?

Every time I see him, I just see a cuck with a face full of tears.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Exactly.

Has there ever been a fan base, that thinks so highly of themselves?
And talks more collective shite than UGA fans?
All the while accomplishing virtually nothing for 41 years.


Florida fans are the most unusual fans I know.

"Mullen is a great coach!
"Smart is awful!"
"Mullen has the best roster he has had in his whole coaching time!"

Then why didn't he beat Saban?

"Mullen has a Honda Civic! Georgia fans are so dumb!"


Okay. So why didn't Mullen beat Orgeron last season when LSU was a .500 team?
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted by tissle
Member since Jul 2009
1954 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:48 pm to
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I think Mullen is a pretty good coach, not great. He gets extra points for living in Georgia fans heads 365.



Pretty much. He is a pretty good coach and I have no idea why some Georgia fans have Mullen so much in their head.
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