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re: Kevin Sumlin

Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11717 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:13 pm to
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It's 36-16 and 3-1 in bowls vs 37-14 and 2-2 in bowls.


Conveniently leaving out that 0-4 H2H record, 20-12 to 17-15 SEC record, average recruiting class rank of 6.2 for LSU and 12 for TAMU. All while LSU had two consecutive down seasons.

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Because he has achieved the same results as Les Miles during his time at A&M, and has done so while costing A&M less than LSU on total coaching staff salary?


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Sorry the facts show that A&M, since expansion, has gotten nearly identical football results to LSU and has done so while spending less on total coaching salary.



You must fall over a lot from all the spinning and backpedaling you've been doing.



Maybe if you spent all that big Aggy money on coordinators rather than overpaying your mediocre HC, you might actually be competitive one day.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39606 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:14 pm to
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All while LSU had two consecutive down seasons



You had like a total of 4 seasons with 10 wins or more before 2000.

Stop acting like lsu is supposed to win 10 or 11 games
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11717 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:19 pm to
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You had like a total of 4 seasons with 10 wins or more before 2000.

So 15 years ago? Before we started hauling top 10-15 recruiting classes every year?

Gotcha.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:55 pm to
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the facts are simple. he did not make that in his first year, which coincided with their first year in the SEC. of course they went 10-2 and beat Bama. then the "rumors" began about him entertaining other offers, particularly in the NFL. so the loyal alumni ponied up to keep him.

even tho it sure seems like a huge mistake now, at the time it seemed like the best thing to do. the fact is no one really knows how any employee is gonna turn out. I formed my negative opinion of Sumlin in year two after Kingsburry left and their offense just didn't work well even with a Heisman winner. the man inherited a great OL and two friggin' awesome RB's and never took the pressure off of his QB by using the running game correctly. and really, the 5 million is not that much out of line in today's big boy football.


I want to be the Aggie version of you
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Stop acting like lsu is supposed to win 10 or 11 games


As soon as you stop acting like A&M is supposed to be relevant.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:07 pm to
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the facts are simple. he did not make that in his first year, which coincided with their first year in the SEC. of course they went 10-2 and beat Bama. then the "rumors" began about him entertaining other offers, particularly in the NFL. so the loyal alumni ponied up to keep him. even tho it sure seems like a huge mistake now, at the time it seemed like the best thing to do. the fact is no one really knows how any employee is gonna turn out. I formed my negative opinion of Sumlin in year two after Kingsburry left and their offense just didn't work well even with a Heisman winner. the man inherited a great OL and two friggin' awesome RB's and never took the pressure off of his QB by using the running game correctly. and really, the 5 million is not that much out of line in today's big boy football.


Yeah this is the most reasonable post on this whole thread. Maybe even this whole website.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87606 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:26 pm to
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It's 36-16 and 3-1 in bowls vs 37-14 and 2-2 in bowls.

Sorry the facts show that A&M, since expansion, has gotten nearly identical football results to LSU and has done so while spending less on total coaching salary.



This is the only victory Aggie can claim since expansion over LSU....i guess


Its sad really
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58121 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:27 pm to
It's a victory an LSU fan was claiming

Lol@ you
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87606 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:29 pm to
Your entire nerd fiesta types this crap everyday

Lol @ Aggie always
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:29 pm to
A&M - Moral Victory U
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2969 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:46 pm to
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Because he has achieved the same results as Les Miles during his time at A&M, and has done so while costing A&M less than LSU on total coaching staff salary?


0-4 is not the same results.

There was one good aTm post here though. Sumlin has won a lot of games (regardless of OOC schedule), won bowl games, finish high a few seasons, Heisman winner, all while walking into the SECW. Only thing I wouldn't associate with him is the improvements to stadium and facilities. The SEC move did that, didn't matter who was coaching aTm. I wouldn't want his style of play at LSU but there are a lot of coaches that make a lot of money that are worse than him.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:48 pm to
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The SEC move did that, didn't matter who was coaching aTm.


The SEC move and high oil prices.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:48 pm to
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You had like a total of 4 seasons with 10 wins or more before 2000.



How about since 2000?
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11717 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:21 pm to
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How about since 2000?


Apparently he doesn't think 15 years of success on the field and recruiting trail should raise expectations a bit.
Posted by AWG 12
Member since Feb 2015
47 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:22 pm to
Cause money aint no thing for us
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:35 pm to
Because he tweets #yessir
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Cause money aint no thing for us


Borrowing it sure isn't & neither is being leveraged to the hilt.

I keep hearing this "rich card" being thrown out. Have you seen the financial statements? Do you know how to read them?

Start with debt service & follow the trail. The shell game only works if you have enough willing parties & keep the revenue up.

The North Korean military laughs @ your financial prowess.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
13650 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:53 pm to
Because Aggy
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58121 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Borrowing it sure isn't & neither is being leveraged to the hilt.


This is stupid even for a sip

Over 250 million is already covered by cash that has been received and the other 300 million in pledges will all be received in the next 12-18 months

Choosing to get a higher rate of return for the cash than we are paying for the bonds is smart money
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44996 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Have you seen the financial statements?

Have you?

Texas A&M University is beyond financially stable; don't attempt to manufacture stories, when you could simply stick with the ol' reliable farmers who frick livestock meme.




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