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re: Kentucky extends Mark Stoops contract through '18

Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Arkansas '11 class (24 - 3.07)


The higher rated guys were gone before 2013.

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'12 class (34 - 3.04)


RS-Fresh, true sophs.

So to recap:

Arkansas played more freshmen last year than Kentucky.

Kentucky was no better than Arkansas.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:30 pm to
Ok I don't get it. Why DO Arky fans care about this so much?

I mean, yall have Wal-Mart money so unlike the poor corndogs yall don't have to worry about the escalation of coaching salaries.

Why do yall care?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Arkansas '11 class (24 - 3.07) and '12 class (34 - 3.04) are both either more highly ranked ('11) or better on a per-player average ('12) than either of Bert's class.

So, to recap:

Bert is unable to coach the existing Arkansas talent at the same level as John L. Smith.

Bert is unable to recruit at Arkansas at the same level as Bobby Petrino.

someone link this fool a breakdown of where all that supposed talent went

I know there was a thread about it on the Arkansas board. If I can find it I'll link it
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Bert is unable to coach Wisconsin's talent at the same level as Gary Anderson.

so you're bragging Anderson won with players recruited by bert?
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until you started this troll thread.

this is a thread announcing you're school extending a coaches contract after going winless in the SEC. It's news, not a troll
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I can see now why you're so desperate to deflect attention anywhere that you can. Proceed.

nobody's deflecting. only informing the uninformed with facts
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Why do yall care?


We do?

We are not the ones deflecting because we extended a HC's contract with zero SEC wins on his resume and a loss to a Sunbelt school.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:34 pm to
Lulz. Piggie fans get so upset.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:34 pm to
Yes obviously you care. There would be nothing to deflect if you didn't throw something out there that can be deflected.

This thread is full of Arky fans. I am legitimately wondering why.

I thought it was in good fun, hence my snide remark earlier, but yall are insistent.

Why?
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Kentucky was no better than Arkansas.


"Kentucky wasn't better than us."

With higher rated recruiting classes pre-2012, a 'successful' B10 coach, and more success in recent history under Nutt and Petrino, the summation of Arkansas under Bert is "not worse than Kentucky."

Why are you so concerned that Kentucky extended Stoops again?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Lulz. Piggie fans get so upset.

lulz someones upset and it's not the piggies
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Ok I don't get it. Why DO Arky fans care about this so much?

Kentucky is in the SEC. This is the SECr. It's almost like we come here to discuss SEC teams
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:39 pm to
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someone link this fool a breakdown of where all that supposed talent went


Want a list of Joker's star recruits who never played a snap for UK? I would bet it's longer than Arky's.

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so you're bragging Anderson won with players recruited by bert?


Can you remind me who recruited the players on the '13 FSU defense? I've forgotten.

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nobody's deflecting. only informing the uninformed with facts


You didn't seem to want any facts about why an extension for CMS was warranted. Funny how interested in facts you are now.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Can you remind me who recruited the players on the '13 FSU defense? I've forgotten.


All you are sayin is he is a recruiter.

He obviously is not a coach by the way FSU didn't miss a beat in his absence, they actually improved, Kentucky with him? Not so much.

But recrootin rankins.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Kentucky is in the SEC. This is the SECr. It's almost like we come here to discuss SEC teams



Don't act coy. We all come here to play the home version of the Jimmie Rustle Game.

Which is fine, I am here too and its all good fun. And quite frankly many Arky posters are downright good at it.

I just don't get why this issue has brought out your big guns.

Without any good answers from yall, I think it has something to do with the fact that yall consider UK below Bert's current program so you CAN talk down to them. But I will admit this concept of "earning" trash talk is confusing to me as an Aggie so I would appreciate some clarification.

Thank you in advance.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:47 pm to
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Want a list of Joker's star recruits who never played a snap for UK? I would bet it's longer than Arky's.



I keep disproving your points and you keep deflecting or moving the goal posts
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Can you remind me who recruited the players on the '13 FSU defense? I've forgotten.

see my response above. also this doesn't answer my question
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You didn't seem to want any facts about why an extension for CMS was warranted. Funny how interested in facts you are now.

no I'm aware of the facts as to why CMS got the extension, which are humorous btw.

the facts that don't want to be accepted now are in regards to bert. why you guys brought him into the conversation I don't know considering this thread is about CMS. It's almost like ya'll are trying to deflect attention from what this thread is about...
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:49 pm to
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All you are sayin is he is a recruiter.


He is a recruiter. A very good recruiter. That's why he got an extension. I'm not sure why you can't comprehend that fact. If Bert were as good at recruiting, I think he would deserve an extension as well.

But he's being out-recruited by a first year head coach at a program that hasn't won an SEC game since 2011. So I'm sure that's a sore spot for you.

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He obviously is not a coach by the way FSU didn't miss a beat in his absence, they actually improved, Kentucky with him? Not so much.


He's not a coach because he was only able to field the #5 defense in the nation while Pruitt fielded the #1 defense?

If he's 'obviously' not a coach because the defensive rankings went from #5 to #1, what do you say about Bert given that:

John L. went 4-8 while Bert went 3-9.

Bert went 7-5 while Anderson went 9-3.

By your logic, obviously Bert is obviously neither a coach or a recruiter.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
49650 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:49 pm to
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I just don't get why this issue has brought out your big guns.

Kentucky is a nice change of pace from who we normally go at it with. see: auburn, tamu, or lsu
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43193 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:51 pm to
Piggies in the slop. They seemed threatened. Bert is still fat. I would be mad too.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Kentucky is a nice change of pace from who we normally go at it with. see: auburn, tamu, or lsu



I see. The SECr equivalent of "military games."

This hogsessed Aggie thanks you for your answer. Carry on.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130459 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:53 pm to
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All you are sayin is he is a recruiter.

He obviously is not a coach by the way FSU didn't miss a beat in his absence, they actually improved, Kentucky with him? Not so much.



Dumbest thing I have read today. Thanks for the laugh!
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:55 pm to
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It's almost like ya'll are trying to deflect attention from what this thread is about...


The thread was about Stoops getting an extension, and the first few responses were stating that he improved recruiting tremendously.

Then Bert's 'successful' recruiting was mentioned and it all blew up in hog-fan faces as their attempts to ridicule UK for the extension was turned back agaisnt them.

If your question is simply why was CMS extended, the answer is because he is doing a great job recruiting and having a long-term contract helps project both stability and longevity, further supporting his efforts on the recruiting trail.

But if you aren't a drooling mongoloid, you alread knew that and now you're sitting around looking stupid because all of your 'lol bad coach' arguments apply equally or moreso to Bert.

Oops.

This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 12:58 pm to
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If your question is simply why was CMS extended, the answer is because he is doing a great job recruiting and having a long-term contract helps project both stability and longevity, further supporting his efforts on the recruiting trail.


The extension would make sense if Kentucky had a cap for contract lengths for state employees.

Kentucky does not, apparently, and Stoops gets an extension for going winless in the SEC and losing to a sunbelt school. Anything else is deflecting and spinning the actual facts.
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