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re: KenPom's Updated Projected SEC Tournament Bracket With 3 Games Left

Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:10 am to
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:10 am to
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Next Four out currently, I'd say that's the bubble
Being listed as an 11 or 12 seed in 7 (no major ones) out of 70 brackets across the internet isn't on the bubble.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:11 am to
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Or full time ban bet, either is fine.

LSU isn't getting into the NCAAT with a RPI of 57


If we finished 10-8 with 1 good win in the SECT (whether that came in game 1 or 2), we would definitely be in almost every bracket on bracket matrix.

That would mean we finished the year winning 6 of our last 7 games with the only loss being in the SECT. We would also have one of the best resumes quality win wise of anyone near our final RPI, which is what would probably put us in.

Either way, I dont see us finishing 10-8 at all, We will be lucky to be 9-9, and at that point basically have to make the SECT title game to have a shot as an at-large.

Teams get chosen every year with RPIs in the 50s, so not sure why you think that's a death blow. Lowest ever was a team with an RPI of 67.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:12 am to
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I'm not risking a lifetime of not having Tigerdroppings to procrastinate at work


LOL I'm kind of begging for it to stop me from procrastinating at work
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:14 am to
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Being listed as an 11 or 12 seed in 7 (no major ones) out of 70 brackets across the internet isn't on the bubble.





You clearly dont understand how this works. Yes, the CUMULATIVE being in the next four out among all reputable brackets out there certainly means you're on the bubble. Or maybe you think being among the 8 teams just outside being predicted in the tourney means you're somehow not on the bubble...which would be a pretty bad interpretation of what the bubble actually is.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:19 am to
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among all reputable brackets out there certainly means you're on the bubble.
List all the reputable brackets that have LSU on them.

Hint: they are from random bloggers on Blogpot and WordPress
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:22 am to
Do you think bracketmatrix uses 70 joe blow website brackets no one has ever heard of? They have to have at least some reputation to them, otherwise they would use 5000 brackets. Sites that have traffic and following.

Also, Lunardi is likely releasing a bracketology today, his last update was Monday. Among his next 4 out was UGA, who lost Wednesday, we won Tuesday. There' a good chance even Lunardi might have us next 4 out today/tomorrow (whenever he releases).
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:24 am to
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Do you think bracketmatrix uses 70 joe blow website brackets no one has ever heard of?
yes. Of the 70, many are random bloggers no one has heard of.

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They have to have at least some reputation to them, otherwise they would use 5000 brackets.
No they don't. Now list the 7.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:25 am to
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Also, Lunardi is likely releasing a bracketology today, his last update was Monday. Among his next 4 out was UGA, who lost Wednesday, we won Tuesday. There' a good chance even Lunardi might have us next 4 out today/tomorrow (whenever he releases).


Georgia is still, after last night, 4 spots higher in the RPI than LSU (70 vs 74). It's not the end all be all, but everyone outside the 2 teams with losing records is ahead of LSU in RPI.

LSU has had a nice season and still has a path to the NCAAT, but they have a lot of work to do before that becomes a serious possibility.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:26 am to
What an easy bracket for the winner of UGA and us
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:27 am
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:28 am to
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Georgia is still, after last night, 4 spots higher in the RPI than LSU (70 vs 74).
UGA has more group 1 wins as well. They have pretty equivalent resumes at this point. UGAs is slightly better, but UGA is trending down and LSU trending up.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:30 am to
So you think they just compeltely at random chose 70 brackets with people that have no idea what they're doing and have no history?

What's the point in listing anything out, you clearly think every bracket on there is useless because you've never heard of it.

The fact the cumulative amount puts us next 4 out should tell you something. You act like we only made it on 7 homer brackets out of 70 or something.

Again, bracketology comes out today/tomorrow. UGA was next four out as of Monday and lost, we won this week. IF we dont make it in on Lunardi's next 4 out we most certainly will if we win this weekend. Not sure why you think it's so taboo to call us on the bubble considering our resume.

Most big brackets havent been updated with mid-week games yet. Lunardi's is as of Monday. Palm's is as of Monday. etc...
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:32 am to
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Georgia is still, after last night, 4 spots higher in the RPI than LSU (70 vs 74). It's not the end all be all, but everyone outside the 2 teams with losing records is ahead of LSU in RPI.



And have a 6-9 conference record now compared to 7-8 for us. There's a lot of factors, but there's no denying UGA hurt themselves and we helped ourselves this mid-week. IT's all BS until selection sunday, the game this weekend between us will truly decide who still has hope and who probably doesnt.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:33 am to
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And have a 6-9 conference record now compared to 7-8 for us.


I don't think that really matters at all. We went 12-4 in the SEC and beat Georgia 2 straight games and didn't make the tournament a few years ago while Georgia did.

LSU has everything in front of them and have gotten to the point where they probably don't have to win the SECT to make the NCAAT. That's all you can ask for.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:34 am
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:33 am to
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So you think they just compeltely at random chose 70 brackets with people that have no idea what they're doing and have no history?
Among the 70 brackets, there are a bunch from random bloggers.

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What's the point in listing anything out, you clearly think every bracket on there is useless because you've never heard of it.

I didn't say that, or anything close to it.

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Not sure why you think it's so taboo to call us on the bubble considering our resume.
I don't think it is taboo, just premature at this point.

Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:34 am to
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I don't think that really matters at all. We went 12-4 in the SEC and beat Georgia 2 straight games and didn't make the tournament a few years ago while Georgia did.





The SEC was terrible back then, pretty different nowadays. 6-9 conference record just looks ugly
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:35 am to
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I don't think it is taboo, just premature at this point.



Doesn't seem to be the case as once again, we're considered next 4 out on bracketmatrix, which isn't just 1 or 2 brackets, but 70.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:37 am to
Georgia's bubble burst last night, imo. LSU has an equivalent resume. LSU isn't on the bubble yet, and 1 more loss ends it.

I agree that they get on the bubble with a win or 2, but the next regular season loss ends their longshot odds of an at large bid.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:39 am to
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LSU isn't on the bubble yet


Well by definition of the bubble, bracketmatrix disagrees, not sure what else to say. Being in next four out would be the definition of currently on the bubble. Definitely NOT on the good side of the bubble, but on it nonetheless.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:40 am to
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which isn't just 1 or 2 brackets, but 70.
And LSU appears on 7 from random blogger sites. If you want that to be considered the bubble, fine. I don't.

Elo chess 65
RPI 74
Non con RPI 99
SOS. 46
Non con SOS. 149

16-11

Those aren't bubble numbers yet.

It's not off the map, so maybe lunardi or kenpom prove me wrong.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 9:44 am to
You seem to think bubble means you have to be in the tourney basically, it doesn't. It just means you have a fighting chance and you're close (or just inside), which right now we have that.

Again, 7/70 with 1 10 seed, 4 11 seeds and 2 12 seeds puts the cumulative at next four out compared to everyone else. This is also with brackets like Lunardi dragging us down that simply havent been updated with mid-week games yet. When you're cumulatively in next four out among so many large variety of brackets, you're on the bubble
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 9:45 am
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