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re: Kansas over Virginia Schools

Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Of course it is. What kind of question is that?
VT football is valued at $455 million, while Kansas hoops $191 million. So it is a fair question.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Parts unknown
Member since May 2014
7970 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
1414 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Texas, Missouri, A&M, and OU are here.


Eh, frick all that.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
5597 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:32 pm to
I’d rather have Notre Dame in the SEC over Kansas. And I hate Notre Dame.
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:32 pm to
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VT football is valued at $455 million, while Kansas hoops $191 million. So it is a fair question.


I'm not saying these figures have no conversational value, because I believe they do.

But it's like when we read about On3's NIL valuation for players. Or Zillow's value for a home.

The true test of market value is the price it's bought and sold for, or how much someone is actually willing to compensate another person.

No one is purchasing the Virginia Tech football program, nor the KU basketball program, nor their athletic departments as a whole. Maybe that happens at some point with some kind of deal for private equity groups, but it's going to have hair all over it, and will be a huge Rubicon moment for college athletics in general.

Until there's some kind of actual market test for these values people are throwing out there, they don't have a lot of legitimacy as far as I'm concerned, other than as someone's opinion that then drives conversation for the rest of us. And there is a value in that. Just not one of actually determining how much a program is worth in dollars.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:34 pm to
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I’d rather have Notre Dame in the SEC over Kansas. And I hate Notre Dame.


What kind of statement is that? Notre Dame is the holy grail. They have always been able to join whatever conference they want whenever they want. Of course anyone would want Notre Dame in their conference before Kansas.

It's just that Notre Dame has made it apparent they're not interested at any price any conference can afford.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
29604 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Corn doesn’t watch TV.


If anyone doubts we are living in a simulation drive through kansas on I70. You pass the same fricking corn field and farm every 3.5 miles.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7003 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:40 pm to
Virginia Tech would be just another football program among the P2, and Kansas hoops would be special, so that is another way to look at it.
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:41 pm to
Good point.
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
We suck at football
Member since Dec 2022
4044 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:43 pm to
If if it pisses off Misery U then I'm all for it.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26865 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:45 pm to
Agreed. Kansas and UNC or Duke would add big time to the SEC for basketball..not saying I want them but understand why the SEC would..
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
5597 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:46 pm to
You Texas people just don’t understand the SEC and you never will.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18698 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:46 pm to
frick Kansas. Absolutely not. They are not welcome in the SEC.
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:55 pm to
So this doesn't have anything to do with football, but it is about the University of Kansas, and it's one of my favorite stories that deserves to be told, so I'm going to tell it.

A man named Clyde Tombaugh grew in the early 1900s on a farm in rural Kansas. He had an early fascination with the stars, going so far as to build his own telescopes following the instructions in the back of Scientific American magazines.

While he was a bit of a child prodigy, unfortunately for him when it came time to go to college it was the beginning of The Great Depression. His family lost everything in the Dust Bowl. He tried to apply for jobs at various telescopes around the world, but they all required a college degree.

But there was one private telescope in Flagstaff Arizona called the Lowell Observatory (named after the owner, Percival Lowell) that would offer him a job. So as a teenager he took the graveyard shift monitoring the telescope looking at vast stretches of sky and taking nightly photographs.

In 1930 Tombaugh found indications of an undiscovered planet. On March 13, 1930 the discovery of Pluto was announced. After this Tombaugh became world famous, especially in the field of astronomy.

A couple of years later he had the resources to obtain his undergraduate degree, and he chose his state college, the University of Kansas in Lawrence.

On his first day of class in Introduction to Astronomy, his name caught the eye of his professor.

"Are you the Clyde Tombaugh who discovered Pluto?" Sheepishly, Clyde admitted he was. The professor immediately announced he was kicking him out of his class. "You cannot be taking my intro to astronomy class." But why, Clyde asked? All I want to do is learn!

"Because if there's any discussion, I cannot possibly be arguing with the discoverer of Pluto in my intro to astronomy course. I'll give you an A, you can get the credits for the class, and you can enroll in one of my advanced classes, but I absolutely cannot have you in this class."
Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
2421 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:14 pm to
That would add the Kansas City market to the SEC
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:19 pm to
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You Texas people just don’t understand the SEC and you never will.


I don't want to. "You don't understand what it's like to be raised uneducated in back breaking poverty." You are correct, sir.

But I do understand organizational behavior, and how the world works. You scraped together enough to buy your cousin's outdated computer on your sharecropper wages, and now you think your worldview is how the rest of the world is going to act.
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
We suck at football
Member since Dec 2022
4044 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

That would add the Kansas City market to the SEC
They're already in the SEC
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14754 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:21 pm to
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go Kansas.


This is the worst idea I've ever read
Posted by SL Xpress
Member since Mar 2023
368 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:22 pm to
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That would add the Kansas City market to the SEC


With the ongoing collapse of the cable business versus streaming that's becoming less and less important.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14754 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:23 pm to
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I don't want to. "You don't understand what it's like to be raised uneducated in back breaking poverty." You are correct, sir.


Texas poverty rate is above three SEC states

That part y'all get just fine
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