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re: Kalen DeBoer isn't cut out to compete at this level

Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:09 pm to
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DeBoer makes more than BK, correct?


I have no idea how much either of them make. It has nothing to do with the fact your can't afford to fire your coach.

If Deboer has 11 losses in 3 years, he'll be fired.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:12 pm to
quote:


I have no idea how much either of them make.


You insisted BK was "overpaid" though.



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If Deboer has 11 losses in 3 years, he'll be fired.


That would make sense, he took over the best situation in the country.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

find a mirror on the dumb. I'm beginning to think you're special needs, thus not gonna engage you anymore.


Someone who believes springtime tornado deaths are the "new normal" would think anything that's actually factual is "dumb".
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15480 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:18 pm to
I used to think it was Nick Saban who caused the hysterics from LSU fans. It wasn’t, it is Alabama. You would think by now they would be suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86814 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:18 pm to
It's not the tornadoes it's the deaths. I've already stated this.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30907 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:19 pm to
quote:


You insisted BK was "overpaid" though.


He is. If he wasn't LSU would have been able to fire him and hire a better coach.

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That would make sense, he took over the best situation in the country.


It's funny that you need to pump up the Alabama roster to try and justify your shitty coach.

He'll be given all the tools he needs to succeed. If he's unable to do it, someone else will be given the chance.

That's how it works at schools who don't have an AD who can only get a coach by guaranteeing them ridiculous amounts of money.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 7:20 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

It's not the tornadoes it's the deaths. I've already stated this.


And it's still dumb.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79735 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

I used to think it was Nick Saban who caused the hysterics from LSU fans. It wasn’t, it is Alabama. You would think by now they would be suffering from Stockholm syndrome.


They have two generations of people who never once saw LSU beat Alabama in Tiger Stadium.

Two. Generations.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Alabama roster
we lost ten + players when Nick retired. That roster wasn't as loaded as the specialist needs idiot thinks.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:27 pm to
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He is. If he wasn't LSU would have been able to fire him and hire a better coach.


Who's better?

quote:

It's funny that you need to pump up the Alabama roster to try and justify your shitty coach.


I don't have to "pump it up", just stating the obvious.

quote:

He'll be given all the tools he needs to succeed. If he's unable to do it, someone else will be given the chance.

That's how it works at schools who don't have an AD who can only get a coach by guaranteeing them ridiculous amounts of money.


Agreed, this is why LSU has fired two title-winning coaches.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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86814 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:28 pm to
But it's not, it's called facts.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:29 pm to
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we lost ten + players when Nick retired. That roster wasn't as loaded as the specialist needs idiot thinks.


I'm just going off of blue chip ratios and tools such as the 247 Team Talent Composite.

I think it's interesting how Alabama fans are suddenly pretending they were in some poverty roster situation.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

But it's not, it's called facts.


Maybe "Alabama facts".

Meanwhile, in the real world, tornado deaths per capita have generally declined over the decades, according to various studies.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30907 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:33 pm to
quote:


Who's better?


Napier would have been the better hire as I said 3 years ago.
quote:



I don't have to "pump it up", just stating the obvious.


No, you're just stating that you are willfully ignorant of the actual situation he inherited. And unlike BK, he wasn't given over a month to recruit the people he wanted to build the team he wanted.

quote:

12/4/23- 4Star QB Tyler Buchner enters portal
12/4/23- 4Star WR Thaiu Jones-Bell enters portal
12/7/23- 3Star DL Isaiah Hastings enters portal
12/7/23- 4Star WR Ja’Corey Brooks enters portal
12/11/23- 3Star DL Aquino Barnes enters portal
12/15/23- Ja’Corey Brooks commits to Louisville
12/17/23- Aquino Barnes commits to Colorado
12/20/23- Tyler Buchner commits to Notre Dame lacrosse
1/1/24- ALABAMA LOSES PLAYOFF GAME
1/1/24- 5Star Junior EDGE Dallas Turner declares early for the NFL Draft
1/3/24- 3Star QB Eli Holstein enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star DL Monkell Goodwine enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Malik Benson enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Seth McLaughlin enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star OL Terrence Ferguson enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star S Kristian Story enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star CB Earl Little II enters portal
1/3/24- 4Star WR Shazam Preston enters portal
1/3/24- 3Star TE Miles Kitselman enters portal
1/3/24- 5Star Junior OT JC Latham declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star LB Ian Jackson enters portal
1/4/24- TE Jax Porter enters portal
1/4/24- 5Star Junior CB Kool-Aid McKinstry declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior LB Chris Braswell declares early for NFL draft
1/4/24- 4Star Senior Justin Eboigbe declares early for NFL draft
1/5/24- WR Haydon Neighbors enters portal
1/5/24- 4Star RB Roydell Williams enters portal
1/6/24- Earl Little II commits to Florida State
1/6/24- Seth McLaughlin commits to Ohio State
1/6/24- 4Star Senior WR Jermaine Burton declares early for NFL draft
1/7/24- 3Star S Jake Pope enters portal
1/7/24- Eli Holstein commits to Pitt
1/7/24- Monkell Goodwine commits to S Carolina
1/8/24- 3Star LB Kendrick Blackshire enters portal
1/8/24- Malik’s Benson commits to Florida State
1/10/24- NICK SABAN RETIRES
1/8/24- 5Star Sophomore CB Terrion Arnold declares early for NFL draft
1/10/24- Kristian Story commits to Kentucky
1/10/24- 5Star 2024 WR Ryan Williams decommits
1/11/24- 4Star Senior RB Jase McClellan declares early for NFL draft
1/11/24- Terrence Ferguson commits to Florida State
1/12/24- 5Star WR Isaiah Bond enters portal
1/12/24- Jake Pope commits to Georgia
1/13/24- 4Star DB Dezz Ricks enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star CB Antonio Kite enters portal
1/13/24- 4Star LB Shawn Murphy enters portal
1/13/24- Miles Kitselman commits to Tennessee
1/13/24- Roydell Williams commits to Florida State
1/14/24- 4Star TE Amari Niblack enters portal
1/14/24- Isiah Bond commits to Texas
1/14/24- 5Star 2025 WR Jaime Ffrench decommits
1/15/24- Isaiah Hastings commits to Syracuse
1/15/24- Shazz Preston commits to Tulane
1/15/24- Shawn Murphy commits to Florida State
1/16/24- 3Star CB Trey Amos enters portal
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 OL Mason Short decommits
1/16/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Javion Hilson decommits; flips to Florida State
1/16/24- Dezz Ricks commits to Texas A&M
1/16/24- Kendrick Blackshire commits to Texas
1/17/24- 5Star S Caleb Downs enters portal
1/17/24- 4Star 2025 EDGE Zion Grady decommits
1/17/24- 5Star OT Kadyn Proctor enters portal
1/17/24- Antonio Kite commits to Auburn
1/18/24- 4Star 2024 CB Jameer Grimsley enters portal
1/18/24- Amari Niblack commits to Texas
1/18/24- Ian Jackson commits to UTSA
1/19/24- 5Star QB Julian Sayin enters portal
1/19/24- Trey Amos commits to Ole Miss
1/19/24- Caleb Downs commits to Ohio State
1/20/24- Kadyn Proctor commits to Iowa
1/21/24- Julian Sayin commits to Ohio State
1/21/24- Jameer Grimsley commits to Florida

Totals:
30 players have entered portal (four 5Star, fifteen 4Star, eleven 3Star)

27 players have committed elsewhere (four 5Star, fifteen 4Star, eight 3Star)

8 players have declared early for the NFL draft (four 5Star and four 4Star)

1 player has decommitted from the 2024 class (5Star)

4 players have decommited from the 2025 class (one 5Star, three 4Stars)


Yeah, I bookmarked the thread that got 194 upvotes and more than 100 replies as you all celebrated and "Tracked the Decline".

Now suddenly he inherited the best situation ever.

quote:

Agreed, this is why LSU has fired two title-winning coaches.


At Alabama, they retire and they don't sue Alabama for costing them a chance at the hall of fame.

This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 7:36 pm
Posted by The Squonk
Member since Nov 2023
150 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:34 pm to
I was cautiously optimistic.
Now I’m recklessly pessimistic.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Napier would have been the better hire as I said 3 years ago.




By what metric? Vibes?

quote:

No, you're just stating that you are willfully ignorant of the actual situation he inherited.


Best roster in the country, even with the Saban defections.




Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30907 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

By what metric? Vibes?


By the fact he's improved Florida every year he's been there, and beat LSU in their 3rd year at each school. The year BK wanted to be judged by.

Let me guess, the situation they inherited no longer matters right?



quote:

Best roster in the country, even with the Saban defections.


Most talented according to recruiting stars. It says nothing of actual team strength. A 17 year old was starting at WR.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

By the fact he's improved Florida every year he's been there


6-7
5-7
8-5

Yikes

quote:

Let me guess, the situation they inherited no longer matters right?


Sure it does, both guys took over 6-7 teams.

quote:

A 17 year old was starting at WR.


Now Ryan Williams is a negative

Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6638 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

At Alabama, they retire


Didn’t Alabama fire the 3-4 coaches prior to Saban?
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4623 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:46 pm to
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By the fact he's improved Florida every year he's been there, and beat LSU in their 3rd year at each school. The year BK wanted to be judged by.

Let me guess, the situation they inherited no longer matters right?

Napier should've been fired after the Miami or A&M game last year. For some reason, the powers that be think Lagway is the second coming of Cam Newton (in reality they are cheap and don't want to pay Billy's buyout).
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