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re: Just what does Missouri bring to the table ?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:34 am to 225rumpshaker
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:34 am to 225rumpshaker
I think the observation about the St. Louis and Kansas City markets and their impact on television contracts is spot on.
But I get mixed messages from folks from Missouri. The Missouri residents I have spoken with seem to be, as best, ambivalent about the move. But none of the friends I have who live there are Mizzou graduates. I am told that the move to the SEC is actually popular among rank and file fans and the Missouri Board of Regents, but not by the Mizzou administration, particularly its President.
It is a shotgun marriage in any event, but it is going to happen, and, I hope it will ultimately be beneficial for all concerned.
But I get mixed messages from folks from Missouri. The Missouri residents I have spoken with seem to be, as best, ambivalent about the move. But none of the friends I have who live there are Mizzou graduates. I am told that the move to the SEC is actually popular among rank and file fans and the Missouri Board of Regents, but not by the Mizzou administration, particularly its President.
It is a shotgun marriage in any event, but it is going to happen, and, I hope it will ultimately be beneficial for all concerned.
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Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:34 am to DvlsAdvocat
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They look at the number of Missou alumni in those media markets, and factor that into new viewers.
I'm just of the belief that the number of viewers brought in by mizzou is marginal when compared to other teams, and marginal compared to what some people seem to be implying.
I am also of the opinion that we really don't have that many other options at the moment, or it would seem so, so i'm ok with them being here
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:36 am to 12
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A really good journalism school.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:36 am to I-59 Tiger
St. Louis has talent but Missouri has never been able to take advantage of it. A few year ago, a Missouri friend explained to me their problems w/ St. Louis. They supposedly had a coach in the past that was 10x more racist than Adolph Rupp, which made their integration to black players real difficult. Most of the St. Louis high schools had black head coaches and they would not help players go to Missouri. The Big 10 schools, especially Illinois, were able to lure these kids because they integrated years before Missouri and the southern schools. Supposedly, Missouri still has some lingering negative perceptions in St. Louis.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:41 am to winyahpercy
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St. Louis has talent but Missouri has never been able to take advantage of it. A few year ago, a Missouri friend explained to me their problems w/ St. Louis. They supposedly had a coach in the past that was 10x more racist than Adolph Rupp, which made their integration to black players real difficult. Most of the St. Louis high schools had black head coaches and they would not help players go to Missouri. The Big 10 schools, especially Illinois, were able to lure these kids because they integrated years before Missouri and the southern schools. Supposedly, Missouri still has some lingering negative perceptions in St. Loui
Interesting. St. Louis does have High School talent. Opening up that recruiting base to the SEC just makes the conference stronger.
Plus, its all about media market footprint. St. Louis and KC gets the SEC a bigger contract with CBS and ESPN.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:42 am to winyahpercy
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They supposedly had a coach in the past that was 10x more racist than Adolph Rupp, which made their integration to black players real difficult. Most of the St. Louis high schools had black head coaches and they would not help players go to Missouri. The Big 10 schools, especially Illinois, were able to lure these kids because they integrated years before Missouri and the southern schools. Supposedly, Missouri still has some lingering negative perceptions in St. Louis.
They just might be a good cultural fit after all...
BTW, I encountered a group of about 10 Missouri folks, all wearing the team gear, in Destin a couple of weeks ago. They were all really nice, and enthusiastic about joining the SEC. We had a good-natured "welcome to your beatings" type of smack talk, and they seemed really cool.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:44 am to Choctaw Hog
FSU or even Clemson... nobody else.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:47 am to I-59 Tiger
Two big assed tv markets.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:51 am to DvlsAdvocat
I've travelled all parts of Missouri. It's a divided state. The bottom half is very southern, similar to Arkansas. The western part is very midwestern like Kansas and Nebraska. And the St. Louis and north along the river is urban and more liberal minded like Chicago.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 10:03 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:58 am to mobilelawyer
The aqueduct? Ooops that was the Romans
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:12 am to Fatbackhawg
giving sec teams just another chance to prepare for the spread
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:15 am to I-59 Tiger
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Just what does Missouri bring to the table ?
Nothing at all. I don't understand why we would bring their sorry arse to the SEC.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:27 am to CITWTT
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Two big assed tv markets.
Given the revenues for the SEC as well as the networks, one would think that there has been some high powered (Madison Ave. type) research on the subject.
Our speculation is just that.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:44 am to I-59 Tiger
Missouri will join Ole Pi$$ and Moo State and Ten and Kentucky at the bottom of the barrel in the SEC.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:01 am to troywew
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Given the revenues for the SEC as well as the networks, one would think that there has been some high powered (Madison Ave. type) research on the subject.
Our speculation is just that.
i would love to see the Excel Spreadsheet that the SEC is using that would include additional cost of travel of all sports, and what revenue is needed to increase the payout per school. i'm sure they've hired the same consultant they used to negotiate the last CBS and ESPN contracts. he used a big-wig at ESPN and knew all of their market data and what they can pay. I'm sure the SEC's proforma model has what-if analysis for every school that could be potentially added. they've got to have a pretty good idea of what A&M and Missouri are worth to CBS and ESPN before they extend the invitation.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:04 am to DvlsAdvocat
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If I could snap my fingers and pick the 14th team, I would have added Clemson...
FIFY
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:08 am to I-59 Tiger
Yet another Tigers team in the SEC. At least their namesake is legit like ours.
(Group that fought in the Civil War, not from some poem or named after Princeton's mascot)
(Group that fought in the Civil War, not from some poem or named after Princeton's mascot)
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:49 am to mobilelawyer
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It is a shotgun marriage in any event, but it is going to happen, and, I hope it will ultimately be beneficial for all concerned.
I think it is a temporary thing, at best. I suspect the landscape of all of collegiate athletics will look vastly different 5 years from now - if not sooner. I think we are moving quickly toward some sort of national alliance of the biggest players forming a group and moving away from the current NCAA model we know, which will ultimately give us a National Championship playoff.
As for the here-and-now, I think we could have done MUCH better culturally, geographically and competitively than Missouri. Academically they are going to help the prestige of the league, and they will deliver bargaining clout to the league when going into the tv negotiations with KC and StL in the SEC's hip pocket. And when we're being honest, that's really all this is about.
Living in KC, I'm glad to know I'll be getting more coverage of the SEC. But ugh! Missouri joining the SEC is kind of like Oliver joining the Brady Bunch, or Terri joining Three's Company.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:55 am to I-59 Tiger
The number one meth market in the U.S.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:56 am to I-59 Tiger
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