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Posted on 2/9/23 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Who the hell is Chris Jackson?
Played at Gulfport under Bert Jenkins, went to LSU then Denver if not mistaken. Don't remember where along the way he changed his name Muslim name.
Posted by floyd13
New Orleans Uptown
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 3:54 pm to
He'll probably whoop your arse baw.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 3:58 pm to
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It's mainly in the other direction. The reality is that way too many white Americans still refuse to acknowledge the racism that is baked in to America.


no, not really.

majority of white America would be absolutely willing to acknowledge it, and even discuss to come up with helpful solutions.

but the media blames damn near everything on racism.
so when real racism actually presents itself, it gets ignored.



Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 3:59 pm to
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Need specifics on those ingredients in that baking please or it’s just more fluffy words of nothingness to try to make people feel bad.



The following lays it out pretty clearly. Racist practices were intentionally embedded and we are still suffering from the effects today..

Systemic and Structural Racism: Definitions, Examples, health Damages, and Approaches to Dismantling.
LINK

Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
Member since Nov 2022
1168 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 4:01 pm to
Notice, too, the use of the phrase “baked in.”

Can’t take out something that’s already an integral part of the “dish.”

So I guess it all needs to be blown up, throw the cake into the trash, to continue the metaphor … or we’ll just have to live with it.
This post was edited on 2/9/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Don't remember where along the way he changed his name Muslim name.




1993, during his time with the Nuggets.
Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 4:52 pm to
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so when real racism actually presents itself, it gets ignored..”


Denying the very real ongoing impact of 400 years of systemic racism is 100% real racism. And too many white Americans continue to deny that obvious truth. Read the article then tell us with what you disagree.
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 4:54 pm to
Nah. I never owned a slave. Thx though.
Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 5:20 pm to
“Nah. I never owned a slave. Thx though.“

And there it is. Lordy lordy.
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 5:24 pm to
Yep.
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 5:25 pm to
Question. Is it possible to be cured of my racism?
Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 5:44 pm to
“Question. Is it possible to be cured of my racism?”

Probably not. You seem pretty committed to it.
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 2/9/23 at 5:59 pm to
It’s a serious question.

What can a white person do to no longer be racist?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7498 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 6:01 pm to
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Read the article then tell us with what you disagree.



ok.

the definition of racism in that article specifically states that only white people can be racist.

quote:

People of color is a term used to refer to African Americans, American Indians/Alaska Natives, Asian Americans, Latinos/Hispanics, and Native Hawaiians/other Pacific Islanders. Racism is the relegation of people of color to inferior status and treatment based on unfounded beliefs about innate inferiority, as well as unjust treatment and oppression of people of color, whether intended or not.





Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 6:32 pm to
Except that it doesn’t say that. Racism is defined as “the relegation of people of color to inferior status and treatment based on unfounded beliefs about innate inferiority, as well as unjust treatment and oppression of people of color, whether intended or not.” The act of being racist is not limited to one race in this article. The object of racism is stated as “people of color” defined as you presented. White people have never been collectively discriminated against by the institutions listed in the article. People of color demonstrably have been.

This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7498 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 6:42 pm to
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Except that it doesn’t say that. Racism is defined as “the relegation of people of color



can people of color be racist to other people of color?

can they be racist to white people?
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 7:06 pm to
I don't think any of ya'll are going to change each other's minds, so you might want to drop it.
Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 7:11 pm to
1) Yes.

2) Collectively, no.
Posted by Radio Zero
I grew up on FIFTH AVENUE.
Member since Nov 2022
1168 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 7:12 pm to
Can an individual who is not white be racist towards an individual who is white?
Posted by OldFatDog
Member since Aug 2014
172 posts
Posted on 2/9/23 at 7:18 pm to
You are right. We should. BUT, I don’t get it. I’m in my 60s and never have got it. This thread started about Mahmoud Abdul Rauf and somehow made him a bad guy. The man has no history of legal problems, drug or alcohol issues, etc. He lived out his convictions based upon his beliefs. Harmed no one. But most white Americans viewed him as a bad guy. If you objectively read through this thread, you will see example after example of the embedded racism that exists. And is continuously denied. I don’t get it.
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