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re: Julio is a Great Downfield Blocker

Posted on 7/24/10 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by CrimsonTusk
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 8:41 pm to
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Julio had a brilliant freshman year. I'm just saying his numbers were inflated somewhat by Wilson's tendency to go to his #1 WR a lot. I mean, if the dropoff in Julio's production wasn't due to Wilson forcefeeding him the ball or McElroy's overall ineptness, what caused the dropoff? It couldn't have been all injuries because he played with a broken bone in his wrist during his entire freshman year.




Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 8:43 pm to
Well seeing as he dropped passes a lot more and he got double covered much more, not to mention the playcalling did not really help him out, I'd probably attribute the dropoff to that.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 8:45 pm to
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He got picked on name and high school hype alone.


Richt made his all SEC picks based off high school hype? What a dumbass.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 8:54 pm to
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Well seeing as he dropped passes a lot more and he got double covered much more, not to mention the playcalling did not really help him out, I'd probably attribute the dropoff to that.


I agree with you about the playcalling. I've always thought that McElwain was a very overrated OC. But our playcalling wasn't much different from the previous year. It was very close and tight to the vest. Julio did drop a lot of balls but not enough to explain a 328 yard dropoff. And Julio wasn't actually double-covered that much last year. Maybe during the early part of last season, but from the Kentucky game on, he saw a lot of one on one coverage.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:02 pm to
Yeah, I think you do have a point, as in the emergence of Maze, Peek and Hanks as playmakers kind of took some off of julio's numbers, but that definitely doesn't take anything away from his freshman year.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:09 pm to
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I've always thought that McElwain was a very overrated OC.


Well he would have to be highly rated to be overrated correct? I've never heard anyone claim that he's a bad arse OC.

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Julio did drop a lot of balls but not enough to explain a 328 yard dropoff.


Maybe Coffee, Upchurch, Ingram, and Richardson have hurt Julio's numbers the past two years?

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And Julio wasn't actually double-covered that much last year.


Sure thing corch
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:12 pm to
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Richt made his all SEC picks based off high school hype?


I think all the coaches that voted him first team did subconsciously, to a degree. They probably had it in the back of their minds that he was a 5* #1 receiver in the country in high school, so he's supposed to be good. If they actually sat down with the stats in front of their faces, Julio wouldn't be first team. Not a chance.
Posted by rolltide1283
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:18 pm to
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I'm just saying his numbers were inflated somewhat by Wilson's tendency to go to his #1 WR a lot.


Do you realize that since JPW stared down his #1 target, he also forced the ball to them even when they weren't open. DJ Hall made some great catches in 07 to bail out JPW and Julio did the same in 08. McElroy forced some early last year which caused some of the drops.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:19 pm to
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this. Yes, Julio is a monster physically. Yes, he has great size and pretty good speed for such a big receiver. But, he has stone hands. He's just not as great of a receiver as everyone, mainly Bama fans, think. I've never seen a guy drop as many passes as him and still be considered as good as he's considered. After the Alabama spring game a bunch of Bama fans came on here and showed their true colors and shared their true opinions on Julio, and they weren't good. Truth is, he isn't even the best receiver on Bama's team. I think that's a well known fact. And then i always hear how Bama's offense doesn't allow him to have big seasons. That's such bullshite. Auburn and Bama ran about the same number of passing plays and look at Darvin's numbers. And Hell, he had Chrissy fricking Todd throwing him the ball, so i don't want to hear it's McElroy's fault.

Point blank, Julio is an okay receiver. Not great, not bad. But okay. He looks like a total head case too. I've never seen a guy get this overhyped, and go out on the field and frick up. He just needs to chill the frick out, catch the ball, go worship Saban, get a new haircut, and make himself into a TE. IMO, he'd be a badass tight end. He's a great blocker, he could add much more size (weight), he'd be pretty damn fast for a tight end, and he could make many mis-matches with Linebackers. He'd be too big for corners and safetys, and too fast for linebackers. And he wouldn't be relied on as much.

There's my two cents. Take it or leave it.

This post was edited on 7/24/10 at 9:20 pm
Posted by rolltide1283
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:21 pm to
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And Julio wasn't actually double-covered that much last year.


I've tried to be nice damn it but it's impossible with you. You need to actually watch the games if you don't think Julio was doubled.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:22 pm to
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I've tried to be nice damn it but it's impossible with you. You need to actually watch the games if you don't think Julio was doubled.


I don't think him being double-teamed was needed, honestly.
Posted by rolltide1283
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:25 pm to
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If they actually sat down with the stats in front of their faces, Julio wouldn't be first team. Not a chance.


Football is not all about stats. Most of the coaches have stated that Julio is one of the most physical WRs they've ever seen and had to gameplan against. It's not just about his yards and TDs.
Posted by rolltide1283
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:26 pm to
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I don't think him being double-teamed was needed, honestly.


Maybe, maybe not but all opposing coaches seems to disagree.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:29 pm to
I don't remember Auburn double-teaming him too much.
Posted by rolltide1283
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:32 pm to
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I don't remember Auburn double-teaming him too much.


I'm no coach but I think y'all should have.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:35 pm to
Nah, the pick plays were effective enough. Tommy Trott could've ran those routes.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:35 pm to
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Truth is, he isn't even the best receiver on Bama's team.


Truth is, he should line at wr on every fukn play. Whether it's for blocking or catching, he needs to be in the game.

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And then i always hear how Bama's offense doesn't allow him to have big seasons


Sho u right, Bama's rushing game doesn't hinder the passing game at all. Ingram and Richardson are afterthoughts.

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Point blank, Julio is an okay receiver. Not great, not bad. But okay. He looks like a total head case too. I've never seen a guy get this overhyped, and go out on the field and frick up. He just needs to chill the frick out, catch the ball, go worship Saban, get a new haircut, and make himself into a TE


STFU.

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There's my two cents. Take it or leave it


Never even considered taking it.

You should focus more on that high school team AU is fielding.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:42 pm to
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Truth is, he should line at wr on every fukn play. Whether it's for blocking or catching, he needs to be in the game.




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Sho u right, Bama's rushing game doesn't hinder the passing game at all. Ingram and Richardson are afterthoughts.


Auburn's rushing offense didn't seem to hinder Darvin Adam's great year.

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STFU.




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You should focus more on that high school team AU is fielding


Great comeback.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:42 pm to
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It's not just about his yards and TDs.


He's a wide receiver, that's what it's 95% about. It doesn't matter how much he weighs or how good he can block...does he make plays? Does he get in the endzone? Does he have hands? If coaches are voting him 1st team "because he's physical" then that's just silly
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:45 pm to
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He's a wide receiver, that's what it's 95% about. It doesn't matter how much he weighs or how good he can block...does he make plays? Does he get in the endzone? Does he have hands? If coaches are voting him 1st team "because he's physical" then that's just silly


This. In that case, Cam Newton should be first team, since he is 6'6 and 250 pounds.
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