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re: Johnny Football or Jake Fromm

Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:07 am to
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:07 am to
Not to people that don't try to interject race into everything....
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:08 am to
Fromm is the one who injected race into the gun control argument.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:14 am to
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Johnny Football probably wins you the OT game against Bama

Johnny probably never gets you to that game though
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:18 am to
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It certainly wasn't because he was ever able to muster a TD in the 4th quarter vs BAMA. Ever.

Bit odd trashing a QB who went for 300+ and 3 TD’s last time he played you.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:23 am to
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Bit odd trashing a QB who went for 300+ and 3 TD’s last time he played you.



Did he win that NC game? Did he win that SECCG? This seems to be the great divide between the Crimson Tide and Dawgs football program historically speaking. Did you win anything?

Jake Fromm - HELL to the NO!!
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:31 am to
Johnny beat Bama. Fromm got raped by Bama.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:33 am to
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Did he win that SECCG?

Was his play the reason his team lost? Was he the only player on the field? Having a good individual performance and losing aren’t mutually exclusive. You’re either being purposefully dense or extremely narrow minded.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:39 am to
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Was his play the reason his team lost? Was he the only player on the field? Having a good individual performance and losing aren’t mutually exclusive. You’re either being purposefully dense or extremely narrow minded.




Jake Fromm should have looked just like Jalen Hurt's marching the Tide down the field in that 4th quarter on the last 2 possessions. No such drama with Fromm. The dawgs were left running a punt-sneek by the great Justin Fields on 4th and 11, which literally set up Jalen and the Tide at midfield for the go-ahead TD. 4th and 11, how did that happen when Fromm and Georgia needed it most?

Winners and losers, they have a name.
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:48 am to
And as Johnny Football never got to a national title game, he is a loser.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:49 am to
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Jake Fromm should have looked just like Jalen Hurt

The guy who came in with fresh legs in the second half? Their games are totally different...
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The dawgs were left running a punt-sneek

It’s an understandable call when your defense is obviously tired and no longer getting stops. If you don’t think your defense has another stop in them then you should absolutely go for it, though Smart or someone should’ve called a timeout and just ran an actual play when they saw bama wasn’t fooled.
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how did that happen

Fromm wasn’t playing defense and allowing Hurts to run around. Do you think he should’ve subbed in at linebacker?
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Winners and losers

What does this have to do with individual performance? You realize it’s possible to have a good performance and still lose, right? And what does any of this have to do with Fromm’s performance against bama? Bottom line, do you think 300+ yards, 3 touchdowns, and 0 int’s is a good stat line for a QB? If you do, then Fromm had a good performance. If you don’t, then he didn’t.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:12 am to
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The guy who came in with fresh legs in the second half? Their games are totally different...
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The guy that came in was POY in the SEC. He finished second in the Heisman. Fromm, not so much.

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It’s an understandable call when your defense is obviously tired and no longer getting stops. If you don’t think your defense has another stop in them then you should absolutely go for it, though Smart or someone should’ve called a timeout and just ran an actual play when they saw bama wasn’t fooled.
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The question was and is: Why did it come to 4th and 11? Because Fromm and Kirby were not good enough, again.

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What does this have to do with individual performance? You realize it’s possible to have a good performance and still lose, right? And what does any of this have to do with Fromm’s performance against bama? Bottom line, do you think 300+ yards, 3 touchdowns, and 0 int’s is a good stat line for a QB? If you do, then Fromm had a good performance. If you don’t, then he didn’t.




Which is really cool in little league baseball. Up here you get to watch the confetti drop from the ceiling and rinse and repeat the bulldog football fortunes for another season.







Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:20 am to
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Which is really cool in little league baseball.

lol what?
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Up here you get to watch the confetti drop from the ceiling and rinse and repeat the bulldog football fortunes for another season.

Feel free to continue to move the goalposts. It’s telling that you’re refusing to answer my question. Never change bama fans.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:24 am to
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Feel free to continue to move the goalposts.


Did your team win? That's moving the goalpost? Lots of guys get stats vs Bama. (See Matt Corral and Trask)

I bet 1980 seems like yesterday?
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6053 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:28 am to
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team

The subject is individual performances. Why are you unable to stick to it?
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That's moving the goalpost?

Yes. Saying individual performances don’t matter but team ones do in a discussion about individual performances is moving the goal posts.
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Lots of guys

We’re talking about one. I’ll ask the question you refuse to answer again. Is 300+ yards, 3 touchdowns, and 0 int’s a good stat line for a QB?
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1980

Original, but again not what we’re talking about. Maybe one day you’ll be able to have a discussion, but it appears today is not that day.
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:32 am to
Depends.. Will the refs be swallowing their whistles when they see egregious horse collar tackles?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:36 am to
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The subject is individual performances. Why are you unable to stick to it?
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Both Matt Corral and Kyle Trask had much better offensive performances against Bama than Jake Fromm. Why can't you seem to keep up?

However, unlike the other 2, Jake Fromm had a hell of a lot more talent around him to continue to get shutout and shutdown by Bama in those 4th quarters. You know, the quarter that matters most.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6053 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:44 am to
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Both Matt Corral and Kyle Trask

Why do you keep insisting on getting off topic? Is 300+ yards, 3 touchdowns, and 0 int a good state line for a QB? Yes or no
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4th quarter

Ok... let’s talk about all 4 quarters since that’s one game.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:47 am to
OP is terrible at trolling
Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:50 am to
Not Jake Fromm. Just not a great QB to go win it all.

JF at the college level for sure. Best backyard football player ever. Most teams that get in are great technique/process teams. I'd take my chances with backyard QB over a team like this. Who knows? We just might win it.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35745 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:20 pm to
Judging an individual by team accomplishments is one of the stupidest interwebs/sports fan discussions ever. As soon as I hear, "muh titles!" enter the conversation I just know I can ignore anything else sports-related that person has to say.
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