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re: Joel Klatt says Imaleava left UT because of the Veer n Shoot....
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:37 pm to koreandawg
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:37 pm to koreandawg
Wow Klatt AND Cowherd
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:02 pm to Rrrrroger
THIS. Huep has yet to get his own guy (minus Nico) to a draftable age/year to see what they could actually do in the NFL. Hooker and Milton would’ve never touched a practice camp in the NFL were it not for developing at UT.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:10 pm to IgotbigVols21
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THIS. Huep has yet to get his own guy (minus Nico) to a draftable age/year to see what they could actually do in the NFL. Hooker and Milton would’ve never touched a practice camp in the NFL were it not for developing at UT.
IMO Josh does not strike me as the type to churn out NFL QBs. Think he’s far more like Leach where he can put up big numbers but never has the elite NFL talent at QB.
Guess we shall see with Faizon
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:12 pm to OccamsStubble
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That describes any bamma player since 2008.
That and getting Auburn coaches fired.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:14 pm to koreandawg
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I member when nearly every Vol on this site were ADAMANT Stetson had no shot in the NFL compared to Hooker
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:19 pm to dhuck20
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I member when nearly every Vol on this site were ADAMANT Stetson had no shot in the NFL compared to Hooker
Stetson has spent more time in rehab than on a professional football field so we are really splitting hairs here
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:46 pm to Mouse Finbar
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Nico's camp overplayed their hand. He didn't have the stats for the money he was making, much less more. Nico isn't near as valuable as his camp thought.
Of course he's not as valuable as his camp, or Tennessee fans, thought. Those paltry stats were obvious but you guys were still singing his praises up until he left in the middle of spring practice. Now you're claiming to see the truth, but you've been very wrong about this from the beginning and you're still trying to find a self-serving excuse. Just admit Nico wasn't a good fit. You should be thanking him for wanting to try something different, not slamming him. He wasn't thriving in Heupel's offense, you were paying too much and he did you a favor. Maybe that turns out to be a mistake and he should've just stayed. Maybe it works out better for everyone. We'll see.
Nico's team started to figured it out. They knew he wasn't putting up the gaudy numbers they expected. They probably started looking because they were getting concerned about his future in the NFL. If they thought staying at Tennessee was gonna get him first round money in the next draft, they most likely wouldn't have been looking elsewhere and making higher salary demands from Tennessee.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 2:40 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:07 pm to dhuck20
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I member when nearly every Vol on this site were ADAMANT Stetson had no shot in the NFL compared to Hooker
Tennessee fans hype their players more than any other SEC team. They talked up Nico non-stop for two years and then it took about a week for them to say he's a horrible qb and pivot to Merk-slinger, and then immediately to Aguilar. Trying to talk something into existence I guess.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:06 pm to wdhalgren
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Nico's team started to figured it out. They knew he wasn't putting up the gaudy numbers they expected. They were looking because they were getting concerned about his future in the NFL. If they thought staying at Tennessee was gonna get him first round money in the next draft, they most likely wouldn't have been looking and making absurd demands from Tennessee.
Sorry but you have to be an IRL dullard to really think this goes beyond money.
Was curious so went back and checked an old thread from an insider who has been nearly spotless re: AD and booster nugs since the night that Kiffin wrecked his university loaned Lexus in the Old City in 2009
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The week before the O&W game a well known national company calls Big Nic and asks about setting up an already agreed to photoshoot for a campaign once spring ball ends. Big Nic tells them that they aren’t going to be doing anything NIL wise until he gets a “new contract” and to check back closer to the season. A higher up at that company who doesn’t follow the ins and outs of this stuff ends up reaching out to a prominent member of the media because he was very confused about the whole situation and was trying to get some clarity on it. That media member wasn’t really in a position to be able to report on it but takes it to Nakos and gets a lot of other stuff from Spyre and other coaching staffs who had been in contact with Big Nic since the season ended and that sets the whole thing off. BN thinks the article came from Heupel and goes scorched earth.
If you really want to think that the family gave so much of a shite about his future pro prospects being damaged at Tennessee due to lack of personnel and scheme, only to then transfer to UCLA to play for an OC that has never called plays on a team with a fraction of the talent, then by all means go right ahead
Posted on 8/27/25 at 12:20 am to Rrrrroger
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He turned a career bench warmer from VT
You cant be serious
Posted on 8/27/25 at 12:26 am to Rrrrroger
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Sorry but you have to be an IRL dullard to really think this goes beyond money. If you really want to think that the family gave so much of a shite about his future pro prospects being damaged at Tennessee due to lack of personnel and scheme, only to then transfer to UCLA to play for an OC that has never called plays on a team with a fraction of the talent, then by all means go right ahead
I'm not the one saying that the veer and shoot offense may not be ideal preparation for NFL schemes. It's been heavily discussed for a long time by NFL talking heads, analysts, etc., who say that it's a potential problem. Heupel himself has to answer questions about it. His former players have talked about it. Sorry but you have to be an IRL dullard to really think that Nico's camp had zero concerns about scheme, especially since you have been steadily pointing out that he hadn't lived up to expectations in Heupel's offense. If he wanted to learn a more pro-style scheme, he had two years to get it done.
If money was the only issue as you insist, Nico's camp would surely have tested the market over those 4 months. They almost certainly did but apparently didn't get a better offer. Why would they stop scheduling NIL work, why would he skip practice, if he knew his best financial option was his current income at Tennessee? The answer is that it wasn't just about money. There are other reasons Nico may have decided to transfer and give up a starting job, but satisfaction with his progress at Tennessee wouldn't be one of them.
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 12:59 am to koreandawg
I was hoping and praying that UT would keep him. Dude just flat out sucks against defenses with a pulse.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 1:00 am
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:01 am to wdhalgren
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Tennessee fans hype their players more than any other SEC team
Coming from a mutt fan. Oh the irony.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:08 am to Lacreus
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Coming from a mutt fan. Oh the irony.
You don't know much about Georgia fans. They're more likely to over criticize their players than overhype them.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:15 am to wdhalgren
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They're more likely to over criticize their players than overhype them
Every college football fanbase overhypes their players to some extent in the pre-season.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 1:17 am
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:37 am to wdhalgren
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Why would he quit his job for more money, without knowing if there was an offer for more money?
He didn't 'quit'. He demanded more money, Heupel told him to kick rocks, he then 'held out' of spring practice to force Heupel's hand, and Heupel booted him.
THEN he entered the portal.
This is all well documented.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:49 am to wdhalgren
It’s a fact that Nico’s camp was actively marketing his talent for a higher NIL payout during those four months. Dan Lanning was one of the coaches who reached out to Heupel and informed him that Nico was being marketed.
Nico’s father was the primary driving force behind this decision. A simple search on Google will reveal the reasons why someone would leave without a better deal in place. He and the other “advisors” were not particularly sharp. Combine this with greed and the lifestyle his father and family of ten had grown accustomed to since Nico’s senior year in high school, and you’ll gain a clearer understanding of the situation.
Nico’s father was the primary driving force behind this decision. A simple search on Google will reveal the reasons why someone would leave without a better deal in place. He and the other “advisors” were not particularly sharp. Combine this with greed and the lifestyle his father and family of ten had grown accustomed to since Nico’s senior year in high school, and you’ll gain a clearer understanding of the situation.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 6:53 am
Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:09 am to CIGAR_cigarillo
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He didn't 'quit'. This is all well documented.
Did this come straight from Heupel's mouth, or Nico, or both? Well documented rarely means "well documented".
More money might have helped smoothed things over, but it wasn't the only source of friction. What I've read is that Nico's camp was unhappy for months, and it wasn't just about money. There were concerns about the scheme and the OL. His camp wasn't happy, negotiations failed and he didn't come back to practice. The other Tennessee poster says he refused NIL work.
No matter how you spin it, when someone makes it known they're unhappy for months, demands a new contract, and quits working and walks off the job, that's called quitting.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:24 am to The Vin Man
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Combine this with greed and the lifestyle his father and family of ten had grown accustomed to since Nico’s senior year in high school, and you’ll gain a clearer understanding of the situation.
As Klatt said, this is Tennessee spin, that it was only about money and greed. That's one side of a story, and there are always two sides. Tennessee fans don't want to admit that Nico's family wasn't happy with the offense, even though you now unanimously (retrospectively) say that he was struggling and not living up to expectations. The quote below is from Zach Ragan who writes for a website that covers Tennessee Vols football. At least he has the honesty to admit that there was more to it than money.
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I don't know if we'll ever know the full story of what happened behind the scenes between Iamaleava and Tennessee. I do believe, based on various conversations with sources, that the Iamaleava camp had some concerns about the Vols' offense and the offensive line. I don't know if that was the sole reason that the breakup between the two sides happened -- there's usually things that both sides leave out in a situation like this.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 2:42 am
Posted on 8/27/25 at 4:21 am to wdhalgren
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Well documented rarely means "well documented"
As a fellow Dawg, just stop. Please stop. You're making us look stupid.
This was discussed ad nauseum right here on this website. As it was happening.
He entered the portal after his holdout was rejected. It was about money and nothing else.
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