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Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:30 pm to LSUdude247
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:30 pm to LSUdude247
Someone on the SEC channel said he spent some time with a passing guru that helped him with fundamentals like what to do with his non- throwing hand and feet placement. He did have some training during the summer.
He also spent hours and hours with his receivers. Once the offensive line got wind of what they were doing, they started joining in. Then within a couple weeks, the whole team was practicing several times a week on their own with Joe basically the coach for the offense. The team basically kept spring practice going on all summer. That’s what it takes. Joe and the receivers practiced every play in the play book against the LSU db’s all summer. That’s why they know what each other is thinking and why Joe trust them to be where they should be so he can throw the ball before they make their break. It’s almost impossible for a defender to stop a pass when the ball is in the air before the receiver makes his break. There is no time for the back to react.
He also spent hours and hours with his receivers. Once the offensive line got wind of what they were doing, they started joining in. Then within a couple weeks, the whole team was practicing several times a week on their own with Joe basically the coach for the offense. The team basically kept spring practice going on all summer. That’s what it takes. Joe and the receivers practiced every play in the play book against the LSU db’s all summer. That’s why they know what each other is thinking and why Joe trust them to be where they should be so he can throw the ball before they make their break. It’s almost impossible for a defender to stop a pass when the ball is in the air before the receiver makes his break. There is no time for the back to react.
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 10:13 pm to DTRooster
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He also threw over 10k routes to each wr over the offseason.
nice story but that’s doubtful
Its well documented, its what happened
Posted on 12/29/19 at 11:14 pm to AginAL
It’s the scheme of the new OC. He needs a raise.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 11:37 pm to AginAL
Wonder if he remembers how to execute the toss dive
Posted on 12/29/19 at 11:37 pm to Keltic Tiger
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And a coach's son, i.e. possessing a high football IQ.Add in Brady's new playbook and Coach E's play calling & it was just perfect fits.
Give the kid credit for his hard work and dedication to his craft, but miss me with the bullshyt "coach's son" crap - his WRs worked hard and studied defenses and improved also was it because of a high FB IQ and were they all coach's sons?
Plenty of coach's Sons have soiled themselves in clutch moments
I hope everyone on this board reads this:
Rarely does anyone "rise to the occasion", they simply sink to level of their preparation & training, Burrough plays at a high level because he has prepared at a high level
The kid worked his azz off and it shows in games, trying to play Musburger and wax poetic about being a coach's son and talking about scheming plays over family meals is a bullshyt stereotype that is wayyy outdated
Serious question:
Are you Bill Polian?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:02 am to AginAL
The LSU QB coach is Steve Ensminger. It is Steve Ensminger's tutelage that is largely responsible for Joe Burrow's improvements. That and the continued transition to the spread offense.
As in the final three games of the season last season, you could already see Joe Burrow dramatically improving. As Steve Ensminger was transitioning more and more to the spread offense as the season went along. In fact, in the Fiesta Bowl last New Years' day, Joe Burrow passed for 394 yards in that game and it would have easily been over 400 yards in that game had Justin Jefferson not dropped that final perfect pass in the corner of the end zone Joe Burrow threw to him in that game and in which hit Jefferson right in the hands.
Of course, with the addition of Joe Brady to the coaching staff, the transition to the spread offense accelerated, and it is Joe Brady, who is the Passing Game Coordinator along with Mickey Joseph, who are together primarily responsible for the amazing improvements in the wide receiver corps from last season to this season.
As in the final three games of the season last season, you could already see Joe Burrow dramatically improving. As Steve Ensminger was transitioning more and more to the spread offense as the season went along. In fact, in the Fiesta Bowl last New Years' day, Joe Burrow passed for 394 yards in that game and it would have easily been over 400 yards in that game had Justin Jefferson not dropped that final perfect pass in the corner of the end zone Joe Burrow threw to him in that game and in which hit Jefferson right in the hands.
Of course, with the addition of Joe Brady to the coaching staff, the transition to the spread offense accelerated, and it is Joe Brady, who is the Passing Game Coordinator along with Mickey Joseph, who are together primarily responsible for the amazing improvements in the wide receiver corps from last season to this season.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:37 am to More&Les
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Its well documented, its what happened
It isn't likely that your starting QB throws 10K routes with his Receivers in the off season, mainly because of the required practices have to be taken into account and you have to try to avoid "arm fatigue" from throwing too much
In the off season QBs are on pitch counts to minimize injury and avoid a dead arm when you add in the required practice time
Maybe all 5 QBs on the depth chart had a combined 10K routes with their WRs, but I doubt that too because the WRs don't want to enter fall camp with dead legs and make them more susceptible to injuries
The kids for LSU obviously worked hard in the off season, but don't go overboard trying to pump up their legend in an attempt to add more to the story
It's amazing that talented QBs like Watson, Mahomes, & Lamar Jackson were never given credit for throwing 10K routes with their Receivers in the off season, that credit is only given to white guys like Burrow that are coach's sons
Lotsa Bill Polian clones out there
Normally a guy like Burrow would be more liked due to his talent & work ethic , but the non stop attempts from the LSU fans to create a God-like white savior makes folks wanna hate his smug Eddie Haskell demeanor
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:05 am to Keltic Tiger
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, he & his receivers threw / caught 10,000 balls this past season
Think this was huge and it was during the off season I believe.
No substitute for hard work and building continuity with your WR's.
Hope Fromm does the same (assuming he stays) with our young WR group.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:11 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Let me stop you right there. Kellen Mond is not going to improve between his junior and senior year like Burrow did, so stop hoping.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:15 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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The kids for LSU obviously worked hard in the off season, but don't go overboard trying to pump up their legend in an attempt to add more to the story
WTF are you talking about? Here ya go Summer of 10,000 catches
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It's amazing that talented QBs like Watson, Mahomes, & Lamar Jackson were never given credit for throwing 10K routes with their Receivers in the off season, that credit is only given to white guys like Burrow that are coach's sons
WTF does race have to do with this?Burtow broke MULTIPLE passing records along with leading his team to the NC
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:16 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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that credit is only given to white guys like Burrow that are coach's sons
Who is this fheg?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:18 am to PeeJayScammedGT
Well, you’re clearly racist
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:24 am to AginAL
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Did he attend a QB camp or go to a QB "guru" since last season ? Or is the credit being given to Joe Brady ? He looked like Tom Brady last night. Just incredible.
You've been living under a rock all season, haven't you?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:31 am to More&Les
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Its well documented, its what happened
The article said those WRs caught those balls off of jugs machines
Burrow wasn't throwing 10K passes to his Receivers
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:42 am to RD Dawg
That wasn't Burrow THROWING to his WRs they were working hard on their own catching balls off of a Jugs machine
The OP claimed that Burrow THREW 10K passes to his Receivers, a huge difference
The Media makes it seem like any time a Black Athlete excels, it is because they hit the "genetic lottery" and when white guys excel, it was their hard work, dedication, discipline, great parents, and on and on
Burrow ain't the only QB to work hard in the off-season, but the Media makes it seem like his hard work is extra special and different because he's a Coach's son, and he's just so disciplined
None of the Media talks about the discipline of the rest of his teammates when they had to show up in shape for the 1st day of practice and run 16 - 100 yd sprints
The entire team is full of disciplined folks, but the Media makes LSU FB seems like a rudderless ship without the zen-like genius of this magical white guy
The worst part about CFB is listening to the game broadcasters fawn all over certain players
The OP claimed that Burrow THREW 10K passes to his Receivers, a huge difference
The Media makes it seem like any time a Black Athlete excels, it is because they hit the "genetic lottery" and when white guys excel, it was their hard work, dedication, discipline, great parents, and on and on
Burrow ain't the only QB to work hard in the off-season, but the Media makes it seem like his hard work is extra special and different because he's a Coach's son, and he's just so disciplined
None of the Media talks about the discipline of the rest of his teammates when they had to show up in shape for the 1st day of practice and run 16 - 100 yd sprints
The entire team is full of disciplined folks, but the Media makes LSU FB seems like a rudderless ship without the zen-like genius of this magical white guy
The worst part about CFB is listening to the game broadcasters fawn all over certain players
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:52 am to RD Dawg
quote:Thanks. I had not seen that. Makes a lot of sense now. Does not matter how good Joe Burrow is (and he is great). We needed improvement with the receivers as well. And this is where Brady paid off. Incredible.
Summer of 10,000 catches
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:02 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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That wasn't Burrow THROWING to his WRs they were working hard on their own catching balls off of a Jugs machine
When did I saw it was? I was refuting what you were saying about WR's and you were CLEARLY wrong.
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The Media makes it seem like any time a Black Athlete excels, it is because they hit the "genetic lottery" and when white guys excel, it was their hard work, dedication, discipline, great parents, and on and on
What "media?" ESPN? Which is DOMINATED by SJW's and race baiters? Show me some examples and BTW I've heard NUMEROUS times about Burrow's athleticism and his days as PG on his basketball team.
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None of the Media talks about the discipline of the rest of his teammates when they had to show up in shape for the 1st day of practice and run 16 - 100 yd sprints
Are you actually a real person?
The "media" isn't talking about his WR's? I JUST LINKED AN ARTICLE about his WR's and the work they went through.
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The worst part about CFB is listening to the game broadcasters fawn all over certain players
Burrow deserves every bit of praise he's getting.Dude,are you really this angry because Burrow is white?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:04 am to AginAL
I think he attended the Manning camp over the summer. The biggest changes, however, were the offense system and his having time to adjust to the team. Remember that he arrived on LSU's campus just before he season started last season. That's crazy when you really think about it.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:08 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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The article said those WRs caught those balls off of jugs machines
They were also working with QB's
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They've tracked every ball caught and put in the summer workouts, the Saturday mornings timing routes with the quarterbacks
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:59 am to AginAL
1. LSU burned the old playbook in a secret ceremony in Feb last season.
2. Brady installed the RPO Penn State used to run with Barkley and the passing game the Saints have run. Secret is get rid of the ball in under 2.5 sec. This improved the OL performance tremedously
3. Burrow just has the football IQ of someone much more experienced than he is.
4. Even last year he was on the upswing in the last third of the season
5. Receivers vastly improved. Last season they averaged a drop rate of about 10-15%.
2. Brady installed the RPO Penn State used to run with Barkley and the passing game the Saints have run. Secret is get rid of the ball in under 2.5 sec. This improved the OL performance tremedously
3. Burrow just has the football IQ of someone much more experienced than he is.
4. Even last year he was on the upswing in the last third of the season
5. Receivers vastly improved. Last season they averaged a drop rate of about 10-15%.
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