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re: JFF is better than Cam and Tebow
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:45 pm to Edearl Watson
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:45 pm to Edearl Watson
quote:In 2012, JFF led his offense to 44.5 points per game.
The 2010 Auburn defense surrendered 337 points in 14 games for an average of 24.07 pts per game.
Cam Newton led this team to a 14-0 record and a BCS Championship.
The 2012 Texas A&M defense surrendered 312 points in 13 games for an average of 24.00 pts per game.
In 2010, Cam led his offense to 41.2 points per game.
So boom back at you
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:15 pm to WG_Dawg
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Neither does aTm's defense
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:27 pm to apfour21
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Yea but Cam never lost...
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:34 pm to lsupride87
In 2010, Cam's best single-game performance was when he accounted for 408 total yards of offense (335 passing, 73 rushing) on 42 plays (17-28 passing, 14 rushing attempts) and accounted for 6 TDs (4 passing, 2 rushing). It came against South Carolina, the #46 ranked defense on the season, in the SEC Championship, which AU won 56-17. He left the field for good after throwing his last TD pass with 11:14 left in the 4th quarter.
In 2012, JFF's best single game performance was when he accounted for 576 net yards (395 passing, 181 rushing) on 59 plays (24-40 passing, 19 rushing attempts) and accounted for 6 TDs (3 passing, 3 rushing). It came against LA Tech, the #120 ranked defense (out of 120 FBS teams), in a game in which JFF led his team to two TDs in the final 7 and a half minutes, then watched as a game-tying 2-point conversion by LT fell short in the final 40 seconds, enabling the Aggies to hang on 59-57. JFF was on the field taking a knee as time expired, prior to joining his teammates in celebration of the hard-fought victory over the eventual WAC runner-up.
BTW, projecting Cam's 9.7 yard per play average out to the 59 touches JFF managed against LT would have given him 573 yards of total offense - just 3 yards shy of JFF's SEC record mark.
In 2012, JFF's best single game performance was when he accounted for 576 net yards (395 passing, 181 rushing) on 59 plays (24-40 passing, 19 rushing attempts) and accounted for 6 TDs (3 passing, 3 rushing). It came against LA Tech, the #120 ranked defense (out of 120 FBS teams), in a game in which JFF led his team to two TDs in the final 7 and a half minutes, then watched as a game-tying 2-point conversion by LT fell short in the final 40 seconds, enabling the Aggies to hang on 59-57. JFF was on the field taking a knee as time expired, prior to joining his teammates in celebration of the hard-fought victory over the eventual WAC runner-up.
BTW, projecting Cam's 9.7 yard per play average out to the 59 touches JFF managed against LT would have given him 573 yards of total offense - just 3 yards shy of JFF's SEC record mark.
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:And if you take out the cupcake games and look solely at conference games, Cam's team averaged 40.2 ppg in 2010 and JFF's team averaged 39.1 ppg.
In 2012, JFF led his offense to 44.5 points per game.
In 2010, Cam led his offense to 41.2 points per game.
So boom back at you
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:37 pm to rowdyreptiles
Cam beats JFF in one important area no one has mentioned:
his NCAA issue was much more funny.
his NCAA issue was much more funny.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:40 pm to joeyb147
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And if you take out the cupcake games and look solely at conference games, Cam's team averaged 40.2 ppg in 2010 and JFF's team averaged 39.1 ppg.
As well as the SEC West 2010 >>>>>>>>>> SEC West 2012
5 teams in the top 15, and with 9 or more wins compared to 3
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:42 pm to FearlessFreep
Ok, well how about JFF's game he just had against Bama? Or last year against Arky (which he left early in the 4th)? Or last year against OU? All of those he had better stats than any Cam game.
You really don't want to play the "what if" game with JFF either because he left virtually every game very early. He had 2 games he left basically at half but still put up over 40 points. Johnny will likely have a 600 yard TO game this year, he may even have a 700 or more. It all depends on how long Sumlin leaves him in. I have little doubt they could hang a hundred on a team if he allowed them to as well but he won't.
I have no problem with arguing Cam's record against JFF, it's a very strong argument. Cam simply didn't put up the same kind of numbers JFF is. Cam got the ring though and that counts for a ton. I have no problem if someone says he was GOAT. JFF just has a different argument because he is a different type of QB.
You really don't want to play the "what if" game with JFF either because he left virtually every game very early. He had 2 games he left basically at half but still put up over 40 points. Johnny will likely have a 600 yard TO game this year, he may even have a 700 or more. It all depends on how long Sumlin leaves him in. I have little doubt they could hang a hundred on a team if he allowed them to as well but he won't.
I have no problem with arguing Cam's record against JFF, it's a very strong argument. Cam simply didn't put up the same kind of numbers JFF is. Cam got the ring though and that counts for a ton. I have no problem if someone says he was GOAT. JFF just has a different argument because he is a different type of QB.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 4:26 pm to ChineseBandit66
This is correct. Thanks for the honesty.
Tebow and Cam could not take this team close to where Johhny takes it. Bama would have blown them away.
Tebow and Cam could not take this team close to where Johhny takes it. Bama would have blown them away.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 4:37 pm to WreckingCrue
quote:Agree on Tebow, not sure about Cam.
Tebow and Cam could not take this team close to where Johhny takes it. Bama would have blown them away.
I think everyone on the Rant said 2010 AU minus Cam would be a 6 or 7 win team at best. I think 2012-13 TAMU would end up with a similar record without JFF.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 5:04 pm to DWag215
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:08 pm to FearlessFreep
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In 2010, Cam's best single-game performance was when he accounted for 408 total yards of offense (335 passing, 73 rushing) on 42 plays (17-28 passing, 14 rushing attempts) and accounted for 6 TDs (4 passing, 2 rushing). It came against South Carolina, the #46 ranked defense on the season, in the SEC Championship, which AU won 56-17. He left the field for good after throwing his last TD pass with 11:14 left in the 4th quarter.
Awesome performance, but still trumped by what JF did at Bama last year as a freshman. I know where Bama's D ended up ranked...
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