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re: Jamesis Winston. Cam Newton. Where they go

Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50249 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:07 pm to
Winston can't read D's
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 6:40 am to
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So how many bottom half starting QBs has won NFL MVP and taken their team to the Super Bowl? Just give me one example in the history of the NFL.


Tommy Tutone likes the way you think, but Rich Gannon is your huckleberry. Regardless, that line of thought is why women think that one amazing blow job is good for decade long hall pass.

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You didn’t refute anything I said


Psst... I did. "We can dig deeper.. advanced metrics will show you the same across the board".

Enjoy:
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Because you can’t.


Is this when you run to your Mom & I get sent home?

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If you want to talk about his transition into the coming years, that is moving the goalposts from your original post and point you were trying to make. You referenced his last 9 years, not his coming years in the future.


Now that's as serious of a projected preemptive suicidal strike if I've ever seen one.

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I directly refuted what you said by pointing out that you selectively cherry picked certain statistics that were underwhelming( which are very few), while refusing to acknowledge the things he did that were outstanding( which are very many).



Speaking of cherries, I noticed your apples to apples picking by way of those relevant college accolades.


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I’ll even go this far.. if not for Cam’s shoulder injury, he would be an upgrade to Dak Prescott for the Cowboys. Similar player and skills but Dak is a watered down version of Cam.



Toss a coin, they are both in that same tier... common sense says take the younger guy with the upward career arch though.




Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 9:30 am to
Neither are good NFL QB,S ! Will not be missed!!!
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22654 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:51 am to
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Both are former Heisman Trophy winners.


This doesn't mean shite.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:01 am to
All that and cant complete simple ten years routes. There is a reason teams won't sign him. He was good for a while because he was bigger than everyone else out there. Broncos exposed him and made him throw from the pocket. Great college QB/ Decent pro QB at one time. I mean he is only 30 years old and teams don't want him.
Posted by A. Dixon Your Face
Member since Oct 2012
443 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Winston can't read


FIFY
Posted by Magnum73
Madison Al
Member since Aug 2019
888 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:50 pm to
Big part of Cam's games is running the ball especially on 3rd down & whatever. That's been taken away with all the hard shots he's taken in the pocket or running for that first down. As a pocket passer he hasn't been accurate enough so teams may not want this version of him.Winston gives way to many points to the other team with so many pick 6's & ints on the wrong side of the field.If wish he had played in the SEC cause maybe his stock wouldn't have been so high.The ACC competition helped him & the Tribisky's of the world.
Posted by buckfammer
Auburn, AL
Member since Dec 2019
1390 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Auburn fans told me Cam was good. Crazy the Panthers don’t want a gOoD QB.


I’ll file this for later, just in case Burrow is injury-prone.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:03 pm to
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I’ll file this for later, just in case Burrow is injury-prone.

Didn’t Ma’am just miss a season with an injury?
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted by buckfammer
Auburn, AL
Member since Dec 2019
1390 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Didn’t Ma’am just miss a season with an injury?


That’s the point, willytaytay. Do try and keep up.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 5:32 pm to
Exactly. He has the mental capacity of an average 8th grader. His athletic ability has cloaked his ignorance.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:08 pm to
Cam- Washington
Winston- Chargers.
Posted by OliverQueen81
In The South
Member since Oct 2015
10494 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:41 pm to
Cam - patriot
Winston- vipers
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:49 am to
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There is a reason teams won't sign him. I mean he is only 30 years old and teams don't want him.

There is a reason but it’s not because they don’t want him. It is injury concerns, primarily his shoulder.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:54 am to
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The guy has the talent to make big plays, you can't coach that, but you can coach a guy into making a lot less mistakes to go along with those big plays


Bruce Arians, one of the greatest QB coaches of all time, literally just said "Nah" when it came to trying not to get Jameis to do Jameis shite.

Winston is stupid, and he can't lead a boy scout troop. He's likely out of the league.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:31 pm to
NFL: Accuracy & brains in place of any threat to run.

As much as I loved Vince Young, the end result came as no surprise. If I'm a GM I'd go X/O's chalk talk & some kind of in game simulator as a qualifier. For every Jeff George & Vince Young you have the Joe Montana & Drew Brees types that say "Hola!".


Different game. Natural selection.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8617 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Jamesis- Dolphins


Probably Jags
Posted by SmithsAuFan
San Diego, CA
Member since Jul 2013
1659 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:47 pm to
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serviceable QB Jamesis


To opposing teams
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 2:14 pm to
Almost all of those awards are from his first few 3 years. He is a running qb and now that his legs are gone he can't keep up.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21280 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 2:21 pm to
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He is a running qb and now that his legs are gone he can't keep up.

Legs aren't the issue, it's his shoulder. He's been beaten to shite for 9 years and his style of play contributed to that.
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