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re: Jalen Mills arrested for 2nd Degree Battery on woman - his lawyer disputes it

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Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:57 am to
I guess according to Bammers if he didn't do anything we should still kick him off

If he is found innocent, nothing is going to happen to him. That would be ridiculous.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:58 am to
See my post a page abck. Same applies.

And why wouldn't the legal outcome affect his position with the football team? Are you implying if Mills is undoubtedly proven innocent, he should still be punished by the LSU coaching staff?
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:59 am
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:00 am to
Only an LSU player getting arrested would be 34 pages into the OP and 2nd at the top of the board
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:00 am to
Im pretty sure stop is actually too stupid to do anything besides be a troll.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:03 am to
quote:

I guess according to Bammers if he didn't do anything we should still kick him off


I never said in the thread that he should be kicked off the team

quote:

If he is found innocent, nothing is going to happen to him. That would be ridiculous.


He doesn't have to be found innocent. He doesn't even have to be charged with anything to be kicked off the team. Mathieu was kicked off the team and yet never charged with anything. Derrick Odom was kicked off the team the second he was charged by BRPD for assault.

Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Im pretty sure stop is actually too stupid to do anything besides be a troll.


Examples?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72134 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:05 am to
Tyrann Mathieu failed drug tests. That's NCAA rules as well as LSU rules. Show me where being accused of something warrants any type of punishment by the NCAA.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:05 am to
quote:

And why wouldn't the legal outcome affect his position with the football team? A


Because Miles has not waited for the legal outcome in some cases in the past
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72134 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:05 am to
quote:

I never said in the thread that he should be kicked off the team


Well what do you think should happen? genuinely curious.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Tyrann Mathieu failed drug tests. That's NCAA rules as well as LSU rules. Show me where being accused of something warrants any type of punishment by the NCAA.


So in other words you don't need a court of law to declare you guilty to get kicked off the team?
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:06 am to
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I simply asked a personal question. One's actions and words should typically reflect what they believe, right?



yeah, and in a court we all believe people should be considered innocent until proven guilty. (even though that wonderful theory doesnt hold completely true in an actual court) But in the real world, we all know that people arent considered innocent until proven guilty. There are countless examples of public figures who are crucified in the media and in public opinion before they are ever found guilty of anything. You know it, i know it, we all know it. You cant reasonably expect that to change just because an LSU player is on the hot seat now.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Only an LSU player getting arrested would be 34 pages into the OP and 2nd at the top of the board


cas4t has most of the posts in this thread.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:08 am to
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:10 am to
quote:

here you go


Exactly. You can't do it
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72134 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:11 am to
quote:


Because Miles has not waited for the legal outcome in some cases in the past


I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are you saying Miles should punish him somehow even if he's proven innocent?

and provide another example of someone. Ryan Perilloux comes to mind for me. But that's a blatant example where he even admitted to the fake ID deal.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Again, do you believe people should be considered innocent until proven guilty?


Why go to court when this can more easily be dealt with in the court of public opinion?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72134 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:12 am to
quote:



cas4t has most of the posts in this thread.


I have a lot, but I've been streaky. I was in this thread in the beginning and the last 6 or 7 pages I'd guess. I wasn't in the middle much.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:12 am to
quote:

He doesn't have to be found innocent. He doesn't even have to be charged with anything to be kicked off the team. Mathieu was kicked off the team and yet never charged with anything. Derrick Odom was kicked off the team the second he was charged by BRPD for assault.


Has he been permanently kicked yet????


No???


Well why are we talking about it?

Its obvious Miles is seeing if his girlfriend or whatever actually comes forward or not.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:13 am to
quote:

I wasn't in the middle much


Slacker
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72134 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:13 am to
quote:

yeah, and in a court we all believe people should be considered innocent until proven guilty. (even though that wonderful theory doesnt hold completely true in an actual court) But in the real world, we all know that people arent considered innocent until proven guilty. There are countless examples of public figures who are crucified in the media and in public opinion before they are ever found guilty of anything. You know it, i know it, we all know it. You cant reasonably expect that to change just because an LSU player is on the hot seat now.


Mills is not getting any negative press in the news. Just by a few posters on the SECr.
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