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re: Ivan Maisel on Vols financial situation
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:51 pm to Tennessee Jed
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:51 pm to Tennessee Jed
Isn't Tennessee rebuilding most of their campus? Is that why all the money is needed?
All state schools have felt some budgetary restraints in the past few years. Funding is down almost everywhere from state sources.
All state schools have felt some budgetary restraints in the past few years. Funding is down almost everywhere from state sources.
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:54 pm to Numberwang
They have had to eliminate buffets at the stadium to save costs. Too many fat people stuffed in there.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:57 pm to Tennessee Jed
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"The university administration has used the athletic department as an ATM, saddling it with financial responsibilities that the Vols’ SEC competitors don’t have," wrote Maisel.
LSU Athletics Dept ponied up $7mil this year to the LSU general budget. LSU Football recieves no govt money from the Univ and in return gives money to the Univ.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:58 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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I have no idea if this is true or not but I cannot see how this translates into a financial hurdle for the AD. I think you are wrong here.
He's not wrong. After Hart fired Dooley he held a presser talking about the coaching search and what they are looking for, etc. He made mention how he is working with the Chancellor and the BOT to "fix the academic hurdles" of UT in relation to athletes. He said the academic issue is one reason it is much harder for coaches to compete at UT.
I don't know precisely what he was referring to, but it sounds like he was saying UT is simply more difficult to get into compared to the other schools that comprise the Big 6. Vandy is even more restrictive but they are private and pride themselves on academics over athletics. That's why they will always suck at football.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:01 pm to AUstar
Tennessee athletics is losing money because Tennessee supporters are bad at math. Film at 11.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:30 pm to Rasheed Wallace
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The school gave the AD 18 million for this hire. Jesus Christ.
Not exactly, the AD just didn't give the school 6 mil this year and won't for the next two. There's. difference
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:42 pm to AUstar
University of Tennessee trustees say complaints that administration is obstructing athletics aren't accurate
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University of Tennessee trustees say they've recently been peppered with calls and emails from fans complaining that the school's academic administration was obstructing the football program.
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Horne said some fans mistakenly believe that Tennessee is at a competitive disadvantage to other schools.
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"I'm not sure where all the complaints started with the radio talk show people. I think the coaches in all our sports are pleased with the way we specially review cases." Cheek said he's committed to "comprehensive excellence" in both academics and athletics and was willing to work with Hart on financial issues. Since being hired a year ago, Hart has talked frankly about the financial shape of Tennessee's athletic department, which has the lowest reserve fund in the SEC and the highest debt service. "The athletics department gives about $6 million a year to support academic scholarships and debt service on parking garages," Cheek said in the letter to Stansberry. "Most of these commitments were made under previous administrations. Dave Hart and I continue to examine these commitments and we will do the right thing to make sure the budget for athletics is healthy moving forward."
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Horne said he believes the struggles in the football program have caused people to start pointing fingers.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:50 pm to AUstar
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He's not wrong. After Hart fired Dooley he held a presser talking about the coaching search and what they are looking for, etc. He made mention how he is working with the Chancellor and the BOT to "fix the academic hurdles" of UT in relation to athletes. He said the academic issue is one reason it is much harder for coaches to compete at UT.
I don't know precisely what he was referring to, but it sounds like he was saying UT is simply more difficult to get into compared to the other schools that comprise the Big 6. Vandy is even more restrictive but they are private and pride themselves on academics over athletics. That's why they will always suck at football.
In other words they want to get back to recruiting real thugs instead of the fake ones that are armed with pellet guns and drive Prius's.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:51 pm to clickityclack
I think it has more to do with the athletics at UT paying a "tax" back to the academic side (like that 6 million a year to support academic scholarships).
Apparently there's a rift between academics at UT and athletics at UT. Reminds me of when the faculty at Auburn got up in arms at Lowder his BOT running an academic institution because of the football team.
Apparently there's a rift between academics at UT and athletics at UT. Reminds me of when the faculty at Auburn got up in arms at Lowder his BOT running an academic institution because of the football team.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:04 pm to Rasheed Wallace
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The school gave the AD 18 million for this hire. Jesus Christ.
More like the AD gave the school 18 million less than t usually would.
And it still doesn't come close to the 50+ million that other schools have set aside for their costs.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:06 pm to Tennessee Jed
What am I supposed to make of this?
Is Maisel a ruhtard? Are we supposed to just figure out WTF he means on our own?
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The university administration has used the athletic department as an ATM, saddling it with financial responsibilities that the Vols’ SEC competitors don’t have. Hart wanted his new coach to be able -- and willing -- to explain how that financial burden translates onto the field.
Is Maisel a ruhtard? Are we supposed to just figure out WTF he means on our own?
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:07 pm to Swoopin
Long story short, TN is fricking broke.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:11 pm to Rasheed Wallace
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The school gave the AD 18 million for this hire. Jesus Christ.
You clearly do not understand how this works. If I have been taking your lunch money for several years, then decide that I am going to stop taking your lunch money, does that mean that I am giving you lunch money now? Same principle applies here.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:13 pm to Rasheed Wallace
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The whole thing stems from it being harder to get into Tennessee than it is for other SEC schools, sparing Vandy.
If this were really the case then UT's APR would be the 2nd highest in the SEC, after Vandy, right?? Unfortunately for you and UT, its not the case and UT is 14th highest after Vandy.
Vanderbilt -- 978
Florida -- 972
Missouri -- 972
Alabama -- 970
Georgia -- 970
South Carolina -- 966
LSU -- 964
Mississippi State -- 959
Kentucky -- 951
Texas A&M -- 946
Auburn -- 943
Arkansas -- 936
Ole Miss -- 933
Tennessee -- 931
APR for SEC Schools
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:14 pm to clickityclack
That chart tells me that UT is dumb and Bama cheats at academics too.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:16 pm to Rasheed Wallace
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Rasheed Wallace
Good lord, you are ignorant.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:16 pm to KingWebbsticles
Basically there are major issues between the athletic people and the academic people. The athletic side has given back more to the university side than nearly any other school for years.. for the next 3 years they will be keeping 18 million instead of giving it to the school to try and help with the athletic side's money woes.
Tennessee is absolutely harder to get into than it used to be and harder than most SEC schools right now because Jimmy the booger eating Cheek is determined to make UT a top 25 research institution. Some "easy majors" have been done away with and the admissions process is more difficult.
Tennessee is absolutely harder to get into than it used to be and harder than most SEC schools right now because Jimmy the booger eating Cheek is determined to make UT a top 25 research institution. Some "easy majors" have been done away with and the admissions process is more difficult.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:19 pm to RT1941
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The school (UT) shouldn't be using the AD like a damn ATM.
This is where many of UT's current problems originate. The university essentially had a goose that laid golden eggs into the mid 2000's. They kept pulling selling those eggs, thinking that they goose would just always lay more. However, they forgot to feed the goose in a manner of speaking. Not to mention how Mike Hamilton, may he rot in hell, leveraged the future income of a program that was not getting sufficient resources for continued success in the changing SEC landscape. Trying to find coaches "on the cheap" or that are "diamonds in the rough" is a recipe for disaster in the SEC.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:20 pm to roadGator
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Have you ever heard of John Brown?
Frick you. He was denied admission to UT as well.
And have a nice day!
Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:21 pm to Domination
Frick you. You are right but let's talk about Dante Phillips next. 
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