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re: It’s Thursday and Auburn is still whining about last Saturday

Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49857 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:38 am to
This guy gets it. Oklahoma fans are just clueless dumbasses

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The trick play so tricky it tricks refs

Oklahoma scored a TD on this illegal trick play that refs ALWAYS miss.

Rodger Sherman


The perfect football crime

You can’t make a football player disappear. Rabbits, doves, and other animals which can fit in hats — sure. But hiding a 6-foot, 200-pound wide receiver in front of a stadium of 100,000 fans, with cameras watching? No magician would dream of pulling off that vanishing act.

But every once in a while, football teams give it a shot. I love stagecraft and deception on the gridiron so much that I wrote a whole article about hide-a-player tactics for The Ringer, and last year I wrote about Bowling Green disguising their quarterback as a punter. And there’s one hide-a-player tactic that’s so successful at getting the defense to lose track of a player that it’s been outlawed… but teams keep getting away with it.

The NCAA specifically bans offenses from pretending to substitute a player… then keeping them on the field, undetected and and throwing them a touchdown. The rulebook is very explicit and repeats itself to make the message clear.

No simulated replacements or substitutions may be used to confuse opponents… No tactic associated with substitutes or the substitution process may be used to confuse opponents… This includes any hideout tactic with or without a substitution…

And in case the ref isn’t quite sure what a “hideout tactic” is, the casebook in the rulebook’s appendix describes the exact play in question to make sure you know it’s illegal:

A1 leaves the field of play during a down. Team A huddles with 10 players. Substitute A12 enters, and A2 simulates leaving the field but sets near the sideline for a “hide-out’’ pass. RULING: Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot. This is a simulated replacement of a player to confuse opponents.

This play has been outlawed in football rulebooks since 1954, when NFL commissioner Bert Bell got so mad at the Rams running a hideout play that he issued a league memo the very next day outlawing the play.

But there’s one problem: Just because officials know this is illegal doesn’t mean they’ll catch it when it happens. In 2009, Georgia Tech pretended to sub out Demaryius Thomas against Clemson, only for the team’s kicker to throw him a touchdown pass. A few days later, ACC officials said “my bad, we should’ve thrown a flag.”. In the same season, Notre Dame ran a hideout play against USC for a touchdown. Again, Pac-10 officials had to issue a mea culpa a few days later. (Ole Miss ran it in 2023… but got away with it so thoroughly that the SEC didn’t say anything.)

And Saturday, Oklahoma threw a touchdown pass against Auburn by having wide receiver Isaiah Sategna III run towards the sideline, unseen by the officials and even the cameras. It turned 2nd-and-22 into a touchdown:



And now, SEC officials have announced that they should have thrown a flag. Whoops! It’s like George W. Bush said. Fool me once, shame on you… fool me twice… well…. I uh, touchdown Sooners.

Refs do catch this play sometimes—Jim Harbaugh’s Michigan got flagged for it in 2015 (before they figured out other ways to disguise operatives on sidelines), and in the NFL, the Rams got caught in 2021. (The Browns almost got away with it in 2014 when Johnny Manziel pretended to have a sideline chat with Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDaniel, but the play was flagged for an unrelated illegal shift.)

It makes sense that refs miss it so often. They’re supposed to throw flags when they see penalties. They’re not supposed to throw penalties for inferences, guesses, and other things that probably happened but they didn’t actually see with their two eyes. So when a player runs out of their field of vision and then runs into the end zone with the ball a few seconds later… they can either let it stand or throw a flag based on an assumption. And that’s how you really get into trouble. And this play isn’t reviewable, even though the whole point is that it’s meant to trick people watching the game live.

The touchdown counted, and Oklahoma won 24-17—the illegal touchdown standing as the margin of victory. They’re 4-0 and will be in the top 10 after this week.

Some trick plays work because they’re on the fringes of the rulebook—the loopholes, the technically legal and the yet-to-be-outlawed. Not so much with the hideout play.

Everybody knows this is against the rules, and it has been since before you were born. When you call the hideout play, you’re dreaming the thief’s dream: That by the time anybody notices the money is gone, you’ve already scored.

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This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 9:43 am
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
Choctaw
Member since Jul 2021
454 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:39 am to
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OU fans, quit being bitches. It was an illegal play. You know it, and you know that eveyone esle knows it. You would gain far more respect by going with the "damn right we cheated and there's nothing you can do about it, so frick off" response than continuing to try to validate the call.

It's quite literally in our name. Did we cheat? Maybe. Did were purposefully toe the line and take advantage of stupid SEC refs and retard rule books? You better believe it. You crying for days about it, is the weakest shite I have ever seen from a fanbase, and that is coming from a fan who has dealt with okie state and big 12 pusses for decades. You auburn bitches make them look like bad asses!!!
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
Choctaw
Member since Jul 2021
454 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:42 am to
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Read through this thread and I need to amend my intial comment.... Auburn FB, their fans, and alot of other fans on this board are Charmin fricking soft.

Y'all are the ones crying "it wasn't illegal! It was a misunderstanding!"

I'm not. We punked you fools, deal with it.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49857 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:43 am to
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I'm not. We punked you fools, deal with it.
I will allow this. This is all I am looking for
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
Choctaw
Member since Jul 2021
454 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:49 am to
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I'm not. We punked you fools, deal with it.
I will allow this. This is all I am looking for
Take care of the faggies this weekend, k?
Posted by daydreamin
Member since Jan 2014
291 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:51 am to
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In short the SEC office did not even look at the play but rather issued the statement it did to SHUT YOU ALL UP.



What planet do you live on???
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71893 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:54 am to
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It's quite literally in our name. Did we cheat? Maybe. Did were purposefully toe the line and take advantage of stupid SEC refs and retard rule books? You better believe it. You crying for days about it, is the weakest shite I have ever seen from a fanbase, and that is coming from a fan who has dealt with okie state and big 12 pusses for decades. You auburn bitches make them look like bad asses!!!


Are we still pretending you and your fellow Sooners are just as guilty of meting over a gifted win as Auburn fans are over a stolen win?

Your rambling and incoherent diatribe is proof positive. You’ve got sand in your vagina because everyone, not just Auburn fans, sees the Oklahoma win as illegitimate. No one respects you and it chaps your arse.

Posted by daydreamin
Member since Jan 2014
291 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:01 am to
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Per the rulebook, please explain how a guy who walks to his spot, lines up, and runs a route is illegal.




Look, we all saw it. The only clowns who don't think it was deceptive are OU fans.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the entire game OU getting all the calls maybe it wouldn't have been that big of a deal.


Let's be honest the SEC could have put out several statements on multiple calls that went OU's way.

There were so many the SEC decided to blow this one call up so everyone forgot about all the other b.s. that went on that game.


You BARELY beat Auburn at home with the refs handing you the game.

There's a saying that goes.. take the money and run.




Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1634 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:04 am to
Well la-de-frickin-da, you finally got something you wanted.

I'll tell you something neither you nor any of the other hysterics screaming about an illegal play have, an iota of evidence, not one.

Conversely, I have posted plenty to support that it wasn't and I've seen a lot more.

The only reason anyone got the idea it was an illegal play was the network "rules analyst" who says, "I wish I could see all the way to the sideline but I can't." He then explains you can't use substitution to deceive but then qualifies that statement saying ". . . if that's what they were trying to do . . ."

So this whole thing is based on a single "rules analyst" who admits he could not see the whole play and can only speculate on OU's intent.

Video (not part of the broadcast) of Freeze during the play does not show him trying to call timeout though later on he gave the official what for and argued that he was trying to. At no point was he throwing a fit over it being an illegal play, not till after the game did anything like that come from him.
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
Choctaw
Member since Jul 2021
454 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:05 am to
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Are we still pretending you and your fellow Sooners are just as guilty of meting over a gifted win as Auburn fans are over a stolen win?

Your rambling and incoherent diatribe is proof positive. You’ve got sand in your vagina because everyone, not just Auburn fans, sees the Oklahoma win as illegitimate. No one respects you and it chaps your arse.


You're trying too hard.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10120 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:05 am to
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Darth_Vader



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You’re making a complete arse of yourself


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71893 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:06 am to
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You're trying too hard.


You’re the one that’s melting over a win for the past six days. I can understand meting over a loss. But melting over a win? That’s pathetic.
Posted by BoomerFNSooner
Choctaw
Member since Jul 2021
454 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:11 am to
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You’re the one that’s melting over a win for the past six days. I can understand meting over a loss. But melting over a win? That’s pathetic.
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WTF are you talking about Melting? I am laughing at Auburn and the other butthurt fans on here. It's pathetic.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10120 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:13 am to
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Look, we all saw it. The only clowns who don't think it was deceptive are OU fans.



How?
Posted by FootballFrenzy
Chief of the Grammar Police
Member since Oct 2023
8257 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:27 am to
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if I gave a shite about that, i would say ty lol

If I gave a shite about whether you gave a shite and said thank you, I would say, “you’re welcome.”
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:29 am to
Oklahoma put Auburn on an extended menstruation cycle.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3097 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:38 am to
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This guy gets it.


Nah, he is just another guy who doesn't realize that OU talked to the officials about the play three times before the game was even played.

And Auburn fans never seem to realize that the Auburn DBs could have paid attention and covered the receiver. It wouldn't have been that hard.

Even someone like you could have been out there and noticed the wide receiver lining up...... wide.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 11:39 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49857 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:43 am to
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Nah, he is just another guy who doesn't realize that OU talked to the officials about the play three times before the game was even played.
You can claim yall discussed it with the officials but I wont believe it. Especially if the same guy that claims it also flicked us off after the play.

Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9511 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:52 am to
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Look, we all saw it. The only clowns who don't think it was deceptive are OU fans.


Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18530 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:09 pm to
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