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re: It’s absurd to say the SEC should not have expanded into Texas

Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:53 am to
Posted by BigTx
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:53 am to

I expected this to be a sarcastic thread, but ended up enjoying the read. I’ll watch UT football no matter who were playing, but I’m so much more excited about the upcoming year because of the conference and the new traditions we get to make.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:53 am to
Common sense is a rare thing on the rant. Where I fault Sankey is that all schools should have gotten a raise when longhorns and sooners were added.

Everybody got zero and Sankey should be fired for that. Also he went about it in a very sneaky way which has destroyed the goodwill from the Aggies toward the SEC.
Posted by AggieArchitect2004
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:57 am to
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Easier path to the championship?

Easier conference to manipulate, strongarm, and ultimately destroy.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:58 am to
Having better teams is what made the sec successful. Contrary to popular belief the big 6 don’t just show up every year ready to dominate. It’s having Florida and tenner being elite while uga bama and lsu struggle and vice versa that keeps the sec on top. If osu mich or Penn st suck the conference sux. Same for acc with Clem fsu Mia. Big 12 with okie and Tex and pac with usc Oregon wash. It’s a running back by committee approach.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:58 am to
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No vandy is vandy bc they don’t fit in. They don’t invest remotely close to the rest of the sec. The pac 12 never had a vandy. If you took the 12 best and stuck them together no one would willingly be a vandy. Maybe an ole miss or usce atm where your pockets of success are fewer than the uga bamas of the world would be the more likely outcome.


Every conference has it's cupcake teams.

Someone has to finish last in the conference every year. Someone has to be the worse. You can not avoid it.

And when a team does it for many years in a row, or lacks success many years in a row, it's going to take those programs down as fans will be less interested etc.

Posted by AggieArchitect2004
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:59 am to
Speaking of new traditions, in the SEC “UT” has been reserved for the University of Tennessee.

Y’all may go by tu as usual.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:59 am to
No one is arguing that. The same team finishing last every year is 100 percent avoidable
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30901 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Having better teams is what made the sec successful. Contrary to popular belief the big 6 don’t just show up every year ready to dominate. It’s having Florida and tenner being elite while uga bama and lsu struggle and vice versa that keeps the sec on top. If osu mich or Penn st suck the conference sux. Same for acc with Clem fsu Mia. Big 12 with okie and Tex and pac with usc Oregon wash. It’s a running back by committee approach.


Having better teams was a bonus under the poll and BCS. It was to some degree helpful in a 4 team playoff.

In 12 team playoff with AQ status for conference champions, having a stacked conference provides no benefits. Alabama should leave the SEC and join the Big12 for the easy path to the playoffs every year.

And we'll see that happening as a G5 team gets added without actually deserving it.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Easier conference to manipulate, strongarm, and ultimately destroy.


SEC would be much easier. We already have our gaggle of Big 12/SWC stooges in Texas A&M, Arkansas, OU, and Missouri. We'd have to start from zero in the B1G.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:04 pm to
You’re assuming all this expansion is to include the g5, the g5 is about to be priced out of cfb. Payed athletes and staff you’ll need 15 mil a year just to play not compete. They’re creating a new division not conference.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30901 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:05 pm to
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No one is arguing that. The same team finishing last every year is 100 percent avoidable


You're still going to have bottom feeders. Repeated failure will erode the fan bases, support and programs.

These teams like Texas, Oklahoma and top SEC teams have gotten there because they have a minimum level of success year after year. A 5 loss season is considered a down year. But with a big conference, these are going to happen much more often for teams.

And these so called high level teams will start missing bowl games completely.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30901 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:06 pm to
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You’re assuming all this expansion is to include the g5, the g5 is about to be priced out of cfb. Payed athletes and staff you’ll need 15 mil a year just to play not compete. They’re creating a new division not conference.


Remove the G5 and you've just added more losses to all these teams.



The G5 have an AQ status in the 12 team playoff btw.
Posted by BevoBucks
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:08 pm to
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Also he went about it in a very sneaky way which has destroyed the goodwill from the Aggies toward the SEC.
If there was a problem with Sankey, then why didn't y'all take a stand when his raise and extension were on the table? What's the point of voting yes and then whining outside the room?
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:09 pm to
Do you think bowl games will even be around in 5-10 years?
Posted by BevoBucks
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Payed athletes and staff you’ll need 15 mil a year just to play not compete.
Player payroll alone will start in the low $20's.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2737 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:11 pm to
What evidence do you have losing for long periods of time erodes good fan bases? Jets have plenty of fans. Neb was the bluest blue blood in 95, they currently haven’t been to a bowl since 2016ish they’re fine. Arky the last ten years? Usce? Penn st kept the house packed during pedo penalty years
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:12 pm to
The President and AD involved in that were sent elsewhere.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2737 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:12 pm to
For now they have a spot. The big conferences basically have three a piece and gain more each consolidation
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2737 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:14 pm to
Coaching staff will be another ten(for a bad one)
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30901 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Do you think bowl games will even be around in 5-10 years?


Yeah, they haven't even started reducing the overall number of them.

Teams will keep going because it gives them extra practice time, which is extremely limited by the NCAA. Not to mention it gives them more exposure and creates a highlight. So the team go even when they lose money and have to pay for a bunch of empty seats.

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