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re: Is this the greatest BAMA dynasty?
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:59 pm to thatdude1985
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:59 pm to thatdude1985
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That's not very nice.
You are correct Dude.
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:23 am to tigerskin
(Bama got in the BCSNCG so LSU said frick it , we ain't even going to try.) OK
In all seriousness , Bama's run from 1961 to 1980 is our best dynasty , probably the all time greatest run, our record was like 205-32-6 , I figured it out one day and thats pretty close.
With 6 national titles 2 ripoffs and 2 more near misses.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 1:55 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:28 am to jbrookshomes
Did the other "dynasties" include mulligans, rigged scheduling and losing the best home game of the season consistsntly?
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 12:29 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:52 am to Vlad The Inhaler
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Did the other "dynasties" include mulligans, rigged scheduling and losing the best home game of the season consistsntly?
Does a Bear shite in Tiger Stadium?
That's known as a "conundrum".
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 3:59 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:07 am to jbrookshomes
Because they keep tripping over all of the national title trophies.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:46 am to AlaTiger
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Well, since the 2011 championship was a complete farce, I would say no. But, carry on and keep congratulating yourself.
The funny thing is, you actually complimented Bama without even meaning to by saying three national titles in four years - one of which you deem a farce - is NOT Bama's greatest run ever.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:13 am to RMFTBama
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The funny thing is, you actually complimented Bama without even meaning to by saying three national titles in four years - one of which you deem a farce - is NOT Bama's greatest run ever.
I love the argument from LSU fan's believe we didn't belong, but if put in the same situation they would have been begging for a rematch like we did and would have rightly deserved one.
Oh and if that title is a farce how does it feel to know LSU is the only 2 loss champion of the BCS era?
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:11 am to RTR America
The biggest farce is the current Alabama dynasty....
A Colt McCoy injury, an LSU mulligan, and a Georgia brainfart, and Bama ends up with 3 titles
Playoffs are coming, we'll see how long the Bama luck lasts
A Colt McCoy injury, an LSU mulligan, and a Georgia brainfart, and Bama ends up with 3 titles
Playoffs are coming, we'll see how long the Bama luck lasts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:14 am to RTR America
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Oh and if that title is a farce how does it feel to know LSU is the only 2 loss champion of the BCS era
that's a completely meaningless stat
with the future playoff, we'll most likely have more "National Champions" with multiple losses
the BCS era has been highly fraudulent crap, and before that you had years with split national championships
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:35 am to RMFTBama
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The funny thing is, you actually complimented Bama without even meaning to by saying three national titles in four years - one of which you deem a farce - is NOT Bama's greatest run ever
The problem with Bama's run is that its extremely dependent on the BCS system, and the BCS system has been in large part, a farce....the rules seem to change at will, and Bama has befitted from this for the most part, while other schools have gotten shafted
For 2011, Bama's argument is that it was one of the two best teams...despite not winning the conference
Well, going into the post-season for 2012, how can you say that? Notre Dame certainly wasn't one of the two best teams....Alabama got a very weak opponent. And Florida was sort of shafted if you were talking about the best teams at the end of the regular season...according to voters the year before, conference championships shouldn't matter.
Are we voting who makes the BCS championship based on conference championship? best record? best resume? who looks the strongest? The BCS in general, is a bunch of crap
The coming playoff will solve a lot of arguments
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 8:37 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:39 am to EvilVodka
The college football playoff is the best thing to happen to the sports world since mark McGwire/Sammy Sosa/KG jr saved baseball.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:57 am to RTR America
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I love the argument from LSU fan's believe we didn't belong, but if put in the same situation they would have been begging for a rematch like we did and would have rightly deserved one.
That's complete speculation, however, if LSU lost they would have had a much better case than the 1-loss Bama team did. If, and a big if, LSU lost I don't think there would have been much complaining. Why? Because the idea of a rematch with team within your division when a given team plays roughly 10% of teams is ludicrous and unprecedented. Only Alabama it seems is so shameless and entitled that they would actually complain about being denied a shot at a tile under those conditions.
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Oh and if that title is a farce how does it feel to know LSU is the only 2 loss champion of the BCS era?
That's irrelevant to the discussion. However, LSU actually accomplished something that season, unlike 2011 Alabama. More importantly, LSU doesn't go around claiming to be the GOAT as a result of this good fortune.
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The problem with Bama's run is that its extremely dependent on the BCS system, and the BCS system has been in large part, a farce....the rules seem to change at will, and Bama has befitted from this for the most part, while other schools have gotten shafted
This. the teams that have the biggest complaint as a result of the 2011 season should be the USC's from 06-08 or Michigan 06. USC was my eyeball champion those years to play the SEC, as they were for many others. Why not throw them up as one of the two "best" teams since that's the arbitrary standard?
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:21 am to Vlad The Inhaler
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This. the teams that have the biggest complaint as a result of the 2011 season should be the USC's from 06-08 and hell, even Boise State through the years. USC was my eyeball champion those years to play the SEC, as they were for many others. Why not throw them up as one of the two "best" teams since that's the standard? What about Boise? They went undefeated with 1 quality win.
Back in '08, you had USC with 1 loss (PAC 10 champ), Texas with 1 loss, and an undefeated Boise State (WAC Champ) and Utah team (MWC Champ) entering the post season with no shot at the championship....so basically, you had the entire west of college football left out of the National Championship picture....
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That's irrelevant to the discussion. However, LSU actually accomplished something that season, unlike 2011 Alabama. More importantly, LSU doesn't go around claiming to be the GOAT as a result of this good fortune.
LSU had a better season, beat more quality opponents, and won the SEC...Alabama looked purty strong to voters, "mor strung" than Okie State
2011 was the final nail in the coffin of the BCS...after so many years of controversy, and horrible endings to wonderful seasons, the conference commissioners caved and invited the 4 team playoff
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:30 am to EvilVodka
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the conference commissioners caved and invited the 4 team playoff
And this Bama fan welcomes it. Alabama won about as much anyone in the poll era and the BCS era because they are really good. No reason to think Alabama won't continue to be sucessful in the playoff era as well.
People like to downplay Alabama's championships no matter what (while ignoring the fact that other team's championships can be picked at too) and that's fine - it comes with the territory. The fact is Alabama has just been one of the best college football programs for a LONG time and has capitalized on championship opportunities when they are there.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:36 am to EvilVodka
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2011 was the final nail in the coffin of the BCS...after so many years of controversy, and horrible endings to wonderful seasons, the conference commissioners caved and invited the 4 team playoff
Which leads to the conspiracy. Why did ESPN pump this game that they know would be a ratings blunder and no one outside of small market Tuscaloosa/Birmingham wanted to see (look at the Sports Nation 80/20 polls)? Create so much outrage that it blows up the system on the eve of the contract renegotiation and get the rights to more games in the future. Seems to have worked out.
Just a theory, although one introduced to me by someone who is a sports journalist.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:37 am to elposter
LSU fans are as bad as the weather and living conditions are in Louisiana. I spent two days recently in some town called Homer, wouldn't go back to save my life. What a hell hole.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:42 am to elposter
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People like to downplay Alabama's championships no matter what (while ignoring the fact that other team's championships can be picked at too) and that's fine - it comes with the territory.
People downplay them because enormity of fortune that went into them is only exceeded by their fan's claims that these championships demonstrate all time greatness. The ratio is out of whack.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:46 am to Vlad The Inhaler
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That's irrelevant to the discussion. However, LSU actually accomplished something that season, unlike 2011 Alabama. More importantly, LSU doesn't go around claiming to be the GOAT as a result of this good fortune.
It's not irrelevant at all. If you're going to argue that Alabama was gifted a chance at the title in 2011, how is it any different from what happened with LSU in 2007? LSU lost its last regular season game and relied on an insane number of losses over the last weekend to even be in the discussion - and then the final decision of who was to play was made by pollsters.
And obviously 2007 LSU doesn't go around bragging about being a great team. Know why? Because they weren't. 2011 Alabama demolished every single team they played in 2011 except LSU the first time. 2007 LSU lost two games and played several other close games that easily could have been losses. Alabama's closest margin of victory outside of LSU was like 12 or 15 points or something.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 9:47 am
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:51 am to jbrookshomes
this is easily the best and most impressive bama dynasty.
the competition is much stiffer today. more teams have close to the same resources as each other and more rules are in place to make it harder to get a dynasty.
the competition is much stiffer today. more teams have close to the same resources as each other and more rules are in place to make it harder to get a dynasty.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 9:52 am to EvilVodka
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Playoffs are coming, we'll see how long the Bama luck lasts
so....Alabama's going to be in the post-season EVERY year now. Yeah, totally hurt our chances.
Alabama + Playoffs = Mount Union of FBS
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