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re: Is this coaching or culture?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:56 pm to Roger Wilco
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:56 pm to Roger Wilco
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I feel like there is a correlation between a player dancing on the sideline with a mace and blowing a 34 point lead
100% correct. This was a coaching and player discipline frick up. They had it won at the half. They just knew it.
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:56 pm to Palooza11
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No, I don't, and honestly don't really care.
Old Guard = Tomb of the Unknown Soldier
Posted on 9/4/17 at 4:58 pm to siliconvalleytiger
To me it's the embodiment of everything I think of when I think of Texas football from high school through college: loud, arrogant, unfounded delusions of grander, and, most importantly, soft as hell.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:00 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Today culture may have some influence. But, I think there is more than one coach who could have aTm playing for an SEC championship with that talent.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:01 pm to borotiger
The running backs played hard last night. They were one of the few bright spots. The entire coaching staff defies logic. Putting in a true freshman when your offense is moving well with your starter...leaving your true freshman in, when you have a veteran QB that has played in SEC games...only hand off the ball to your two backs, who rushed for 300+ the entire game, 4 times in the 4th quarter...throw two fricking fades when you start 1st and goal after plowing UCLA on the ground...NOT calling timeout when UCLA is marching down the field on the winning drive...
It's like they all smoked a bunch of blunts during the half. It has been this way since 2014. Time after time, the team folds over like a bunch of bitches doesn't matter if they win or lose the game. Same shite happened last year during wins against UCLA and UT. We go get a new S&C coach, and we come out looking like a bunch of lazy arse fricks in the second half. They got lazy, and cocky. Thought they had the game in the bag. This includes coaches. Tired of this shite.
It's like they all smoked a bunch of blunts during the half. It has been this way since 2014. Time after time, the team folds over like a bunch of bitches doesn't matter if they win or lose the game. Same shite happened last year during wins against UCLA and UT. We go get a new S&C coach, and we come out looking like a bunch of lazy arse fricks in the second half. They got lazy, and cocky. Thought they had the game in the bag. This includes coaches. Tired of this shite.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:02 pm to ljhog
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But, I think there is more than one coach who could have aTm playing for an SEC championship with that talent.
That coach is NOT named Kevin Sumlin.
With his firing, the last remnants of the R.C. Chokum era will be gone.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:06 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I believe it's both coaching and culture. Sumlin carries himself like he's got everything under control. The truth of the matter is, if it wasn't for Manziel, his record would suck. A&M isn't any better now than they were before Sumlin coaching wise. With all the talent he can choose from, this idiot still can't find a decent quarterback. Coaching at the University of Houston and coaching in big boy football is two completely different animals. Just like Herman at Texas.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:12 pm to Palooza11
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No, I don't, and honestly don't really care. Good for him, just found it weird that it needed to be mentioned as if to validate his statement. His statement is 100% spot on though.
Many Aggies seem to need this kind of validation.
It's a cultural thing and its generally kind of weird.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:14 pm to BoarEd
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They tried to make their image more hip by hiring a "hip" coach and it bit them in the arse. Like it always does. Their last coach did the exact same shite.
What?
Mike Sherman made zero attempts at being hip. Nothing at all about Mike Sherman is hip. Mike Sherman is the living embodiment of "un-hip".
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:15 pm to BB1977
Well, he's actually found a few good quarterbacks. Problem is he ran them all off. And watching last night's game it becomes clear why they all left. Sumlin is a jackass.
He is a narcissist. He reminds me so much of Houston Nutt it's ridiculous. Only he is the air raid version of Nutt who doesn't believe in any sort of discipline whatsoever
For a school that likes to pretend play Army, their football team is shameful. Those guys should literally be the most disciplined bunch in the SEC and instead, they're the least disciplined.
He is a narcissist. He reminds me so much of Houston Nutt it's ridiculous. Only he is the air raid version of Nutt who doesn't believe in any sort of discipline whatsoever
For a school that likes to pretend play Army, their football team is shameful. Those guys should literally be the most disciplined bunch in the SEC and instead, they're the least disciplined.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:16 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Mike Sherman made zero attempts at being hip. Nothing at all about Mike Sherman is hip. Mike Sherman is the living embodiment of "un-hip".
I meant, losing games he had no business losing. Letting Petrino come from 28 down to beat him, for instance.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:16 pm to BB1977
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The truth of the matter is, if it wasn't for Manziel, his record would suck.
Without Manziel, A&M loses the following games:
2012 Louisiana Tech
2012 Ole Miss
2012 Alabama
2012 Bowl Game
2013 Ole Miss
2013 Mississippi State
2013 Bowl Game
Without Manziel, Kevin Sumlin's record is 37-29 (17-23)
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:16 pm to BB1977
I disagree, and I disagree because A&M is not and has never been an elite program. It's actually never been close to being an elite program. In fact, technically speaking, we are better with Sumlin compared to the last 2 coaches. We have never had a losing season, and we made a bowl game since 2012. Then, Johnny Manziel happened, and then the renovation of Kyle Field happened. The expectations were raised.
All Aggies should accept that our program has never been elite. We all want it to be, but right now, Sumlin needs to go. Tired of the meltdowns and the collapses.
All Aggies should accept that our program has never been elite. We all want it to be, but right now, Sumlin needs to go. Tired of the meltdowns and the collapses.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:18 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Throw in there 2013 Ole Miss as well. I saw the game live. Johnny was magic.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:18 pm to BoarEd
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Letting Petrino come from 28 down to beat him, for instance.
Sherman never blew any lead larger than 18.
Sumlin has blown leads of 23 (held on to win by 2), 21 (held on to win by 7), and 34 (lost by 1) points.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:22 pm to oman
It's all the coach. A&M (and many other teams) could win with the right coach.
I think the brand itself is a bit uncool but that appeals to some conservative types but that doesn't matter much. I do think they need to take a chance on a younger coach who can help build a real brand. They have a decent Oline and some nice Oline recruits. Build a physical smash mouth team that may match up to the military history of the place.
I think the brand itself is a bit uncool but that appeals to some conservative types but that doesn't matter much. I do think they need to take a chance on a younger coach who can help build a real brand. They have a decent Oline and some nice Oline recruits. Build a physical smash mouth team that may match up to the military history of the place.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:23 pm to Palooza11
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A&M is not and has never been an elite program.
The same holds true for Bevo, but their arrogance doesn't allow them to admit it.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:25 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Sumlin has blown leads of 23 (held on to win by 2), 21 (held on to win by 7), and 34 (lost by 1) points.
Yeah, I guess that was only an 18 point lead in 2011. Sure seemed like more. A&M was pouring it on throughout the first half and then mustered 3 in the second half.
Anyways, like I was saying, we don't say "Aggy gonna Aggy" for nothing.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:27 pm to BoarEd
Knowing our bizarre nature, Kevin Sumlin will exit as A&M coach...gone 6-0 against Arkansas.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:27 pm to randomways
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LSU has had some atrocious decades
The only one that was atrocious was the 1990s. We had a few bad seasons in the 1950s, but that was offset by a national championship in 1958 and another great season in 1959.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 5:28 pm
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