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re: Is Tennessee still a Blue Blood?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:41 pm to BurgTiger
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:41 pm to BurgTiger
10RC is a Elite coach away from being back in the hunt. The question is when will they land that guy or if they did with JP. We'll see. Winning changes everything.
People were laughing at Bama when Nick was hired. When we showed with 92K for A-Day 07 you laughed some more.
Then......
People were laughing at Bama when Nick was hired. When we showed with 92K for A-Day 07 you laughed some more.
Then......
Posted on 12/7/17 at 2:54 pm to crispyUGA
If by elite you mean the Top 10%, that would mean roughly 13 teams
130 FBS schools x 10% (roughly the A students in school) = 13
The Vols would easily qualify over the past 100 years even with the crater from the post Fulmer era.
If you pick a #1 and #2 from current Power 5's & count Notre Dame and Southern Cal for the PAC + IND.
That gets you to 10
2 for B1G (Ohio State and Michigan)
2 for SEC (Alabama and Tennessee)
2 for ACC (Georgia Tech and Florida State)
2 for B12 (Oklahoma and Texas)
2 for PAC (Southern California) + IND (Notre Dame)
After that I might add in Georgia, LSU, and Nebraska to round out to 13.
Miami and Florida are strong in the short term but not over time
Penn State has not been #1 in PA, nor Auburn #1 in AL
If you cut that list to just 5% (the A+ students) it may look like this
ACC = Florida State (3 Natty's with 2 coaches, but all modern)
B1G = Ohio State (Natty's since WWII)
B12 = Oklahoma (Natty's since WW I)
PAC = Southern California (Natty's since WWII)
SEC = Alabama (Natty's since WW I)
IND = Notre Dame (Natty's since WW I)
That would leave you a spot for "maybe" 1 more team and you could argue for several but might limit it to just teams after WWII which would knock down a Michigan or Georgia Tech and further erode "historic" claims. Miami might be out because of the short duration of their success and others for long gaps between success where you have 1, 2, or 3 MNC's in a 100 year span.
130 FBS schools x 10% (roughly the A students in school) = 13
The Vols would easily qualify over the past 100 years even with the crater from the post Fulmer era.
If you pick a #1 and #2 from current Power 5's & count Notre Dame and Southern Cal for the PAC + IND.
That gets you to 10
2 for B1G (Ohio State and Michigan)
2 for SEC (Alabama and Tennessee)
2 for ACC (Georgia Tech and Florida State)
2 for B12 (Oklahoma and Texas)
2 for PAC (Southern California) + IND (Notre Dame)
After that I might add in Georgia, LSU, and Nebraska to round out to 13.
Miami and Florida are strong in the short term but not over time
Penn State has not been #1 in PA, nor Auburn #1 in AL
If you cut that list to just 5% (the A+ students) it may look like this
ACC = Florida State (3 Natty's with 2 coaches, but all modern)
B1G = Ohio State (Natty's since WWII)
B12 = Oklahoma (Natty's since WW I)
PAC = Southern California (Natty's since WWII)
SEC = Alabama (Natty's since WW I)
IND = Notre Dame (Natty's since WW I)
That would leave you a spot for "maybe" 1 more team and you could argue for several but might limit it to just teams after WWII which would knock down a Michigan or Georgia Tech and further erode "historic" claims. Miami might be out because of the short duration of their success and others for long gaps between success where you have 1, 2, or 3 MNC's in a 100 year span.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:03 pm to BurgTiger
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Since we’ve been here they’ve shed a lot of blood, but none of it was blue.
Current and former SEC teams with no real claim to "blue blood" in FBS football
Arkansas (1 MNC in the 60's)
Kentucky (while they bleed blue, not royalty in CFB)
Missouri
Mississippi (wrong time in history to be trying for #1)
Mississippi State
Sewanee (not FBS)
South Carolina
Tulane (Green Wave peaked early)
Texas A&M (not if you have to go back to the 30's)
Vanderbilt
Leaving you
Alabama
Tennessee
Georgia Tech (4 MNC's with 4 coaches but been down longer than the Vols)
Georgia
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:11 pm to Kamikaze25
quote:
Blue Blood
The use of this term should be a bannable offense.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:18 pm to Kamikaze25
Tn is blood with aids and hepatitis in it
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:38 pm to Cheese Grits
As an LSU alum, I'm comfortable saying LSU is not a blue blood. LSU has had a two or three golden eras in its history, but it's been a second-tier program for the most part. LSU is currently in second-tier status.
I consider blue bloods the programs that have dominated the country in the last 50 years or so. Michigan is the most overrated program in the country. It has one national title since the 1950s, and the only reason it gets so much pub nationally is because it is a northern school.
To me, the blue bloods are Alabama, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Ohio State and USC. Nebraska and Notre Dame are has-beens at this point.
I consider blue bloods the programs that have dominated the country in the last 50 years or so. Michigan is the most overrated program in the country. It has one national title since the 1950s, and the only reason it gets so much pub nationally is because it is a northern school.
To me, the blue bloods are Alabama, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Ohio State and USC. Nebraska and Notre Dame are has-beens at this point.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:02 pm to Volatile
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Missouri’s first on the chopping block if the conference ever shrinks. Guarantee it.
It would be one of the Mississippi schools.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:07 pm to Kamikaze25
Bama
Auburn
LSU
UF
UGA
Everyone else
Auburn
LSU
UF
UGA
Everyone else
Posted on 12/7/17 at 6:23 pm to Kamikaze25
Dropping behind Georgia Tech lately...
All-Time Winning Percentage in Regular Season SEC Games
#1. Alabama, 0.7135 (419-162-21)
#2. Georgia Tech, 0.6160 (115-70-9)
#3. Tennessee, 0.6125 (333-207-20)
#4. Georgia, 0.6082 (333-212-14)
#5. Florida, 0.5853 (315-221-15)
#6. LSU, 0.5841 (319-224-22)
#7. Auburn, 0.5570 (313-247-19)
#8. Texas A&M, 0.5208 (25-23)
#9. Ole Miss, 0.4803 (260-282-15)
#10. Missouri, 0.4792 (23-25)
#11. Arkansas, 0.4375 (90-116-2)
#12. S. Carolina, 0.4351 (90-117-1)
#13. Tulane, 0.3872 (69-113-13)
#14. Miss. State, 0.3619 (198-354-13)
#15. Kentucky, 0.3095 (167-380-12)
#16. Vanderbilt, 0.2527 (134-414-18)
#17. Sewanee, 0.0000 (0-36)
All-Time Winning Percentage in Regular Season SEC Games
#1. Alabama, 0.7135 (419-162-21)
#2. Georgia Tech, 0.6160 (115-70-9)
#3. Tennessee, 0.6125 (333-207-20)
#4. Georgia, 0.6082 (333-212-14)
#5. Florida, 0.5853 (315-221-15)
#6. LSU, 0.5841 (319-224-22)
#7. Auburn, 0.5570 (313-247-19)
#8. Texas A&M, 0.5208 (25-23)
#9. Ole Miss, 0.4803 (260-282-15)
#10. Missouri, 0.4792 (23-25)
#11. Arkansas, 0.4375 (90-116-2)
#12. S. Carolina, 0.4351 (90-117-1)
#13. Tulane, 0.3872 (69-113-13)
#14. Miss. State, 0.3619 (198-354-13)
#15. Kentucky, 0.3095 (167-380-12)
#16. Vanderbilt, 0.2527 (134-414-18)
#17. Sewanee, 0.0000 (0-36)
Posted on 12/7/17 at 6:32 pm to Milk
quote:
Tennessee is not blue blood. Never has been.
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
USCw
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Ohio St
Penn St
Ohio St and Penn St are bubble Blue Bloods in my opinion.
Pretty much teams that dominated the 60s-80s that carried long winning traditions with historic coaches and national following
Is this about winning? If you can claim literally no football accomplishments since the 90s (Mich/Neb), you're no longer a blue blood. The Holy Roman Empire is not an empire anymore.
If it's about power and money, the list is slightly different.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 6:39 pm to Cheese Grits
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Cheese Grits
You made some very solid posts in this thread sir.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:21 pm to Kamikaze25
The fact the OP sits around wondering if UT is means...UT is deserving of being in the convo. Unlike mizzou. Ha. Mizzou fans have small man syndrome worse than aggies do. Ha!!
No one cares about mizzou, and why Nike gave UT a premier level contract during UTs worse period in history. Ask Nike who they think are CFB "Blue Bloods."
And look at what Cheese Grits added to thread without your hater tinted glasses on, and ask yourself what you would think mizzou would be a blue blood with the same history that history.
No one cares about mizzou, and why Nike gave UT a premier level contract during UTs worse period in history. Ask Nike who they think are CFB "Blue Bloods."
And look at what Cheese Grits added to thread without your hater tinted glasses on, and ask yourself what you would think mizzou would be a blue blood with the same history that history.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:27 pm to BammerDelendaEst
quote:quote:
Blue Blood
The use of this term should be a bannable offense.
For real. This shite is such a cuckold attitude coming from fans who think this antiquated hierarchy is in any way relevant to the modern college football landscape. Blows me away when you douchebags argue about it.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:04 pm to Kamikaze25
Haven’t been since integration
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:59 pm to djsdawg
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Blue Blood of what?
Life
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:29 pm to Cheese Grits
KC = Nebraska probably does best followed by Missou or Kansas (a big drop indeed)
Son, you don’t have the first clue. Nebraska is a distant 4th behind Mizzou, ku and kstate. It’s probably been a year since I’ve seen a husker fan.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:26 pm to Kcprogguitar
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:34 pm to TigerTalker16
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you guys
He typed "you guys."
I was kinda enjoying the back and forth between the mizzourites and the vols until I saw that damnit ... when will some of y'all mizzoury fans quick talkin' like yankees? It makes the rest of y'all look bad.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:16 pm to scrooster
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He typed "you guys."
At least it was not yuse guys
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:18 pm to Kevua2175
quote:
Blue bloods
I would say no.
Nebraska is on probation since they fell below .700 over the past couple of seasons.
UF at #3 among SEC programs.
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