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Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I stated facts. It seems they upset you.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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you're projecting. You are emotionally connected in a negative way in that you want LSU to receive punishment. That you can't even admit this makes having a good faith discussion impossible.
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you're still having trouble with what actually happened. They payments are how Funes stole the money. The payment itself is the embezzlement.
No sir. I'm not the one having issues... Here it is again for you.. Word for word:
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John Paul Funes—who pleaded guilty today to stealing more than $550,000 from the Our Lady of the Lake Foundation—sent approximately $180,000 of that money to the father of Vadal Alexander, the former LSU offensive guard who played for the Tigers from 2012-2015 and was a student-athlete at the time of the payments.
SENT TO JAMES FROM Funes.. described as PAYMENTS.
Once more from a second publication:
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While his son Vadal was on the LSU football team, James Alexander reportedly received a six-figure sum of stolen money from John Paul Funes, the former chief fundraiser for Our Lady of the Lake hospitals who admitted in federal court Thursday that he embezzled more than $550,000.
Again, the NCAA does not give a crap how Funes got the money. They care about:
- who he paid with MONEY.
- The fact that it involves players (multiple) and their families
They don't care about:
- Where he got his money from
- How much they sent back of the whole sum.
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You don't know that to be true
and again please post the dates of the payment that show it was both within the statue of limitations and also while Vadal was at LSU. That's a small window of time. So even if your interpretation of what happened is how the NCAA views it, it still may not matter.
I have posted that., In this one too. All publications state it. "While Vadal was a student athlete at LSU"
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Of course a statute of limitations matters
LSU AD said they were notified in late 2018 and then notified the NCAA, which would fall into the 4 year window. There are also exceptions to the statute of limitations.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:51 pm to secuniversity
You're not understanding. When was the money sent to Vadal's father?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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3 of his 4 years at LSU would fall outside the statute of limitations.
Does not apply....
"willful violators" clause DOES APPLY. That makes an exception to the four-year statute of limitations on violations.
That's a fact!
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:52 pm to joshua2571
Well you must have not seen the handfuls of cash Bama recruits flash on Twitter and Instagram after they commit. This last thing going on with the lady of the lake has more to do with money laundering than paid players
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:54 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You're not understanding. When was the money sent to Vadal's father?
Per the documents.... WHILE VADAL WAS AT LSU
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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LSU doesn’t have anything to do with this. Just more hopes and wants from Yahoo and tSECr.
If he's a booster, then he is considered "LSU" by the NCAA.
Ask Alabama fans, we know.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:58 pm to 3down10
Yes he is.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:59 pm to LSU Patrick
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I'm enjoying it to be honest.
Yea right!
Just keep that thought
Posted on 6/22/19 at 12:59 pm to broadcaster
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Well you must have not seen the handfuls of cash Bama recruits flash on Twitter and Instagram after they commit. This last thing going on with the lady of the lake has more to do with money laundering than paid players
Little secret, those little flashes of cash get posted by recruits from all schools. And they all seem to happen right around the same time of year, about 2 weeks before school starts.
It's Pell Grant cash most of the time and it ranges in the hundreds of dollars, not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
It's a myth that the players don't get money legit. A player can get about $25k a year from legit sources if they qualify.
Still eligible for the Pell Grant as I mentioned.
Then as part of there scholarship if they don't stay in the dorm, they can be given money for housing, food, clothing etc. If they want to drive home, they can even get gas money from the school - all legit.
And now on top of all that they also get their stipend payouts, another 5k on that.
And if they want, they are still eligible for student loans.
But go ahead and get butthurt because you think a player flashing a few hundred dollars is crazy.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:02 pm to Jjdoc
quote:It’s amazing how some people’s memories are so short Like everybody forgets about the paper trail yahoo found on DJ Fluker with payments,flights,and him even admitting to getting paid, But that was at Alabama so it would never get the NCAA’s attention. The sad thing is everybody cheats but is just amazing how fans from Alabama and Auburn can come on here and try to ridicule a booster from paying players when they are the best at it.
If the NCAA walks away from LSU from things like this then it’s open season for boosters
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:03 pm to broadcaster
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It’s amazing how some people’s memories are so short Like everybody forgets about the paper trail yahoo found on DJ Fluker with payments,flights,and him even admitting to getting paid, But that was at Alabama so it would never get the NCAA’s attention
I remember it.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:04 pm to 3down10
Okay then tell me what you think will happen to LSU over this?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:04 pm to 3down10
^^^L8U^^^
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:05 pm to Jjdoc
Correct. His last year was in 2015. The money was sent outside of the statute of limitations. You're trying to argue that the staute of limitations begins when LSU self reported what could potentially be a violation in 2018.
That isn't how it works.
That isn't how it works.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:06 pm to secuniversity
Doesn't matter when the violation occurred. The notification LSU sent to the NCAA was before the 4-year window
19.5.11 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is provided to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter.
19.5.11 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is provided to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:07 pm to secuniversity
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or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter.
So late 2018 sets it at late 2014. Vadal played at LSU from 2012-2015.
And again y’all are continuing to assume the NCAA will consider this impermissible benefit re: Vadal which we don’t know will happen.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
2015-2018.
3 years.
3 years.
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