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re: Is Lane Kiffin the best OC in the SEC?

Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:25 pm to
I don't have the knowledge base to say if he's the best in the SEC (heck, I don't think I could name all of the SEC OC's off the top of my head).

But one thing for sure - Kiffin/Bama sure has refurbished his image. Not that long ago he was looked on as the "leave Tenn in the middle of the night/end up getting run off from USC" douche. Now he looked on (legitimately I think) as the guy who figured out how to meld Bama's power running game with enough spread concepts to stay up with the current state of the game.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:06 pm to
He is.
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:28 am to
I mean, you can make that argument from the angle that the guy was the OC coach the 2015 national champions, so therefore he's the "best", but, to be honest? I still think Lane Kiffin is a work in progress so-to-speak; kind of evolving with the team as time goes on. I still feel like we haven't seen enough of him yet, this was only his 2nd year. It'll be interesting to see...I hope he sticks around.
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:32 am to
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But one thing for sure - Kiffin/Bama sure has refurbished his image. Not that long ago he was looked on as the "leave Tenn in the middle of the night/end up getting run off from USC" douche. Now he looked on (legitimately I think) as the guy who figured out how to meld Bama's power running game with enough spread concepts to stay up with the current state of the game.



^^ This. I agree 100% with you there. And I have to admit, I was NOT a fan of his hiring originally. In fact, I was kinda pissed, looking back. I thought he was a loser, and didn't know what Saban saw in him. But, in retrospect, I am glad Saban gave him a chance to redeem his image. The guy looked like a total joke beforehand, and now people are looking at him like he's borderline genius. If he's smart, he'll stay under Saban until Saban is gone and then go elsewhere, or stick with Alabama. Part of me feels he'll end up leaving prematurely, but another part of me hopes he sticks around because it's better for him to have Saban as a mentor and to continue to rehabilitate his career that was honestly looking as bad as it could be just a couple years ago.

Nick Saban as a mentor is the best thing that could have happened to the guy.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:33 am
Posted by Blawdawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:37 am to
Not exactly epic competition there.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:48 am to
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He really sucked again against Arkansas this year, and there were long spurts of nothing in the Ole Miss game



LOL Wut?!

Statements like this are what make the rant unbearable at times.

Even with 5 turnovers, Bama put up 550 yards of offense and only punted twice that entire game.

They scored virtually every single time they managed to hold on to the football and avoid throwing to a Rebear.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
Kiffin is the most predictable offensive coordinator ..well he's vastly overrated


1/ he despises the power run game and sprinkles enough in just to make Saban happy


2. Kiffin would have been fired if that defense were not so amazing giving him so many chances. Alabama was 6th in the sec; 5th in the sec west and one spot below lsu in points per possession which is the stat you look at to see how efficient your offense is.for the record ole Miss is 4th and Arkansas is 8th.....in the country


3. Our d cord has a simple but brilliant plan for kiff. You don't stop him you let him stop himself. Let him have that short shite all day long and eventually he will do something stupid like a double reverse play action pass and we'd never bite cause we knew it was coming and ged have to punt



Kiffin couldn't hold enos, Jim mcelwain's jock strap as a playcaller he's there for one reason. Recruiting


Not counting my own team freeze's teams are always hard as frick to defend
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Plaid Palace
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Alabama was 6th in the sec; 5th in the sec west and one spot below lsu in points per possession which is the stat you look at to see how efficient your offense is.for the record ole Miss is 4th and Arkansas is 8th.....in the country


2015 vs Power 5 teams
#3 SEC PPG (34.0)
#4 SEC YPC (4.59)
#3 SEC Passer Rating (145.11)
#5 SEC YPP (5.88)

2014 vs Power 5 teams
#2 SEC PPG (34.2)
#4 SEC YPC (4.75)
#2 SEC Passer Rating (151.04)
#4 SEC YPP (6.36)


We didn't have a great offensive game this year against Arkansas and we still put up 400 yards of total offense, 27 pts and missed 2 field goals (including a chip shot).
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:01 pm to
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thousands of Bama fans on this site
Posted by JB Bama
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:12 pm to
With the game on the line and desperate for a 1st down he called a TE screen on 3rd and 11.

Thank God we have superior athletes or Clemson beats us by 2 scores. That play call to Adarius Stewart on 3rd down was AWFUL, but Stewart bailed us out.

I watch Bama play once a week and I correctly call about 25% of the plays. Kiffin isn't a bad OC and I give him credit for having offensive success with that Oline and Coker at QB. If we didn't have elite talent at almost every offensive skill position outside of QB it would have been a different season. How many times did Ridley bail us out of a deep ball into double coverage?
Posted by Plaid Palace
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
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If we didn't have elite talent at almost every offensive skill position outside of QB it would have been a different season.


I think we had very average talent for a Top 10 team on the offensive line. Cam will be a 1st round pick, Kelly will be a mid round pick and Shank and Jackson will probably not even be drafted. Big P might end up being a really good player, but he was very average and played like a freshman most of the year.

Outside of Ridley we had a pretty good college WR in Stewart and a solid slot man in Mullaney. We weren't exactly overflowing with NFL players at those spots either.

And, of course, our quarterback will have slim to no chance to be drafted.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:36 pm to
He honestly might be the best offensive mind in college football.

Very impressed with his work
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