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re: Is Kirby losing control?

Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11750 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:14 pm to
You know you are top dog when everyone is jumping in to trash you over a tragedy. Like these programs have never had problems too! Only here the jealous butt hurts are not waiting to find out what actually happened.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:14 pm to
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The hell you say!


We already knew the important details of the tragedy. All that was added into it is which bar the college kids went to, which isn’t newsworthy.

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Your opinion only.


From a former AJC sports columnist:

“ Investigating what happened that night is certainly a story worth pursuing. But it doesn’t mean a story must be written.”

and the look of the article is so terrible that their editor felt compelled to explain why it was written.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:16 pm to
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The number of folks who are feigning shock over this story are upset because their team and school can not compete with UGA on a football field.
You flatter yourself

with meaninglessness

always little men

always the lowest common denominator with these pathetic georgia fans

always
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:16 pm to
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I'm sure those two young ladies (employed by UGA) and those football players were on their way to a Bible study at 2:45 a.m. ?


They were all ADULTS so it ain't none of nobodies business where they were headed. They could have been headed home to get in a pile...what difference does it make to anyone other than them? They were young people...young people do all kinds of things that old folks remember fondly and act like is shocking. I hope they were in love and headed home to bump uglies til the next afternoon....why is anyone shocked by the possiblitly that young folks do such things and have since the beginning of time thus every last one of us alive today....
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
10438 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:17 pm to
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I’m just confused how Georgia fans are so nonchalant about that Atlanta Journal Article. Pretty fricked up if you ask me.


What do you mean? The football team has staffers that pick players up from down town to endure they aren't drin8ng drunk or otherwise getting into trouble. NFL teams do the same thing.

How are grown arse adults going to a strip club doing anything wrong?

You're trying to make this into something its not.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:18 pm to
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It’s not that they went to a strip club. It’s that a person on staff took them and then crashed their car killing two people.



Took them??? What kind of crazy do we have here??? Took them, like they were children who couldn't say no??? Ain't nobody took nobody nowhere....good greif.
Posted by UT Beer Man
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2023
283 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Young folks go to strip clubs and stay to the early morning if the place is open that late. They will drink alcohol and look at naked women in these places.



I mean I don't disagree.

Young people everywhere do this.

But the only school personnel that ever gave me a ride after doing these things in my college years were the campus police.

It seems as if the athletic program sort of enables this behavior, which is quite different than just "boys are gonna be boys".



This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11750 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:21 pm to
As of yet I don’t think they have proof they were actually in the club. Even if they were - all were over 18 and what do you think college kids do. They party. And Athens has a lot of places to party.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:23 pm to
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It literally a violation of your own university rules.


SO is speeding and jaywalking and all manner of stuff that is against the rules which people violate every minute of every day. You can't prevent young people from consorting with one another because you have no right to do so and any effort to do so would be seen for what it is...meddling in private business. The only reason there is a rule against such activity is when it inevitably happens and something inevitably goes wrong the University can say " we told them not to do that". There is no effort to prevent it because it can't be prevented. Young folks are going to do the same thing that old folks remember fondly....it has been happening since the beginning of time and thank goodness or none of us would be here. It is disgusting to take hatred for a football program and damn all of mankind but that is what some folks are pretending to do....
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:25 pm to
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But the only school personnel that ever gave me a ride after doing these things in my college years were the campus police.


You clearly weren’t a CFB player in 2023. I imagine this is a common set up all over the sec. So is Waffle House. So are young women hanging with young men in a college town.
Posted by UT Beer Man
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2023
283 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:31 pm to
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You clearly weren’t a CFB player in 2023. I imagine this is a common set up all over the sec.



I have no doubt.

I think this tragedy is calling into question whether or not "the common set up" is the best practice.

Universities decide what and what they won't get involved in.

UGA basically unpersoned a young man for using a racial epithet at a ball game just a few years ago.

This unsavory activity has resulted in two dead young people and a couple more seriously injured. It just feels like the consequences are greater and perhaps should be considered a little more closely.

Just one man's opinion.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Accuracy is irrelevant,


A Disney Dawg and a liberal? No wonder you live in your grandmas house with no aspirations of better.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:35 pm to
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It was an athletic department employee and a football player. Were school funds used? Were they drinking and driving? Were they in a school provided car? If the answer is no to all 3 then it’s a smear piece. If the answer is yes then UGA has an issue they need to have addressed.

Get those answers before you just dismiss this. If the answers absolve the university then you can dismiss them.


The University is absolved either way. What, the University is going to cease to exist??? Folks are not going to send their precious babies to Athens and pay through the nose and jump through hoops while those babies are in high school to ensure that they can get into Athens? Y'all are delusional and are enjoying a tragedy by any definition because your football program is behind UGA currently. That is as sick as poisoning a tree or shooting an inlaw because they ain't upset enough over a narror win. The fact that the young ladies worked for the AD and two or several football players were involved is not in the least relative to the University being absolved because everyone involved is an adult. No one was cooerced into anything that anyone is aware of. If they were drinking again they are adults...adults do that. Only one of the was driving and that one person, were they drinking, is guilty of a crime...again, not UGA, that one person. Folks drink and drive unfortunately no matter their employer has to say on the subject. If they were using school funds someone most likely committed a criminal act and the victim would be the University.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:36 pm to
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A Disney Dawg and a liberal? No wonder you live in your grandmas house with no aspirations of better.


If you are going to douche it up like this so often, aim for originality. Be better at being a douche.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:38 pm to
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This unsavory activity has resulted in two dead young people and a couple more seriously injured.


This tragedy can happen totally sober, with a DD, in an Uber, or in a taxi, and at any age.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Y'all are delusional and are enjoying a tragedy by any definition because your football program is behind UGA currently. That is as sick as poisoning a tree or shooting an inlaw because they ain't upset enough over a narror win.


This is true. Chi rarely posts because his team sucks arse, yet here he is with this post. Smoke runs when his team gets smoked, and when his most hated team wins it all back to back, but he always races back in glee when something bad happens to uga.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
52612 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:44 pm to
The driver was close friends with many of UGA's OL and their significant others. Neighbor's kid has been dating another UGA OL for years and there's pictures of the whole group hanging out for years.

This was not UGA having dedicated staffers driving specified players as DD. I do not know any dating specifics as to if she was dating anyone, but everything I've seen is this was a close group of friends who experienced a tragic situation. Will wait for toxicology report, but I don't think there is the sensationalism a lot on here would like.

Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:45 pm to
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This tragedy can happen totally sober, with a DD, in an Uber, or in a taxi, and at any age.


But did it? Or did happen because some college kids were drunk, speeding, at 2 something in the morning. It’s tragic but didn’t just happen, a series of choices led directly to this event. Nothing changes it but you can hold people and if applicable organizations. If university funds or a university car was used then the investigation needs to determine where the breakdown was, and hold people accountable.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11307 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:46 pm to
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I mean I don't disagree.

Young people everywhere do this.

But the only school personnel that ever gave me a ride after doing these things in my college years were the campus police.

It seems as if the athletic program sort of enables this behavior, which is quite different than just "boys are gonna be boys".


I think many people are reading waaaaaaayyyyyyy to much into this. These were young people who spent a good bit of time together in a tight community by necessity. 2 were employees and 2 student athletes. All were adults. It is not uncommon for young people in such situations, say the workplace for instance, to get involved romantically. Most companies frown on it and have rules against it but for obvious reasons it happens and nothing is done. At worse that is what was going on here...and that is just beyond the comprehension of many apparently.

Also going to UGA and playing football, or any major program for that matter, is completely foreign to what most people experience in the late teens and early 20s. It may well be that UGA expects these young employees to look after these young athletes and keep them out of trouble if they can...it sounds like a fine idea. If this is what it is it didn't work out this time but how many times has it worked out in the past? We don't know because tragedy and scandal was avoided. If my son were at UGA as a football player I would appreciate the University doing what it could, within reason, to keep him out of harms way as much as possible. Nothing can guarantee that nothing will happen to a person but we can make an effort and at worse that is what this was, a well intentioned effort which went bad.

Some of you seem to be insinuating that the University has these young employees hired to be something of a call girl to student athletes. Ya'll are some sick puppies if you think that is possible. I get it that your football program aint keeping up and anything you can latch onto to make UGA look bad is relevant but feigning shock over young folks doing the same thing that old folks remember fondly is just stupid.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:49 pm to
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But did it?


That info comes with the tox report of the 24 year old driver. Maybe be a real man and wait for it before judging, but this is a uga tragedy and you crave these things because our program has finally reached a level of success that pisses you off to your core.
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